New Supercharged Shingles Vaccine Has Serious Problems

New Supercharged Shingles Vaccine Has Serious Problems

Story Highlights

  • Shingrix, a new high antigen vaccine designed to prevent shingles (herpes zoster), is produced by GlaxoSmithKline and is being aggressively marketed for adults over age 50.
  • Approved for use in October 2017, the new vaccine is competing with Merck’s shingles vaccine, Zostavax, and there are already reports that Shingrix is associated with significant administrative errors and both common and severe side effects that may prevent people from returning for the recommended second shot.
  • Although not widely known, an increase in the incidence of shingles, particularly among younger people, was predicted and has occurred since the varicella zoster (chickenpox) vaccine was licensed in 1995 and subsequently mandated by states for children to attend school in the U.S.

The new herpes zoster (shingles) vaccine, Shingrix, is produced by GlaxoSmithKline (GSK) and is being marketed as the welcome and best answer to preventing a painful bout with shingles. GSK’s Shingrix vaccine is in head to head competition with Merck’s shingles vaccine, Zostavax, licensed in 2006. The relentless advertising for Shingrix is difficult to avoid: It is blared over grocery store speakers, has taken the place of muzak on pharmacy or doctors’ office hold lines, and is aggressively being promoted by nearly the entire medical establishment.

Shingles is caused by reactivation of the chickenpox virus (varicella zoster) in a person who has previously had either natural chickenpox or has received the vaccine. Children or adults who get shingles suffer with a painful, blistering rash, usually on one side of the body. The rash and blisters usually last for two or three weeks and the nerve pain may persist for months or even years.1 The condition usually occurs in adults over age 50, which is why public health officials and vaccine manufacturers target that population for marketing shingles vaccines. However, shingles has also been diagnosed more frequently in children since the chickenpox vaccine was licensed and recommended for all healthy children in 1995.2

Two doses of Shingrix costs close to $300.

Since its approval in October of 2017, Shingrix vaccine has overshadowed the older Zostavax vaccine produced by Merck, which had been the only shingles vaccine available in the U.S. for more than a decade. Shingrix is reported to be up to 90 percent effective in preventing the development of shingles, compared to an estimated 50 percent effectiveness for Zostavax.3

Administrative Errors

Even among the vaccine’s most ardent supporters, however, the news about Shingrix hasn’t all been positive. In June, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) published a report discussing a significant number of administrative errors and serious injuries associated with the new shingles vaccine.4 Within the first four months of being on the market, the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) received 155 adverse event reports linked to Shingrix.

Several of the errors were attributable to vaccine administrators confusing the two shingles vaccines, which actually differ in significant ways. Merck’s Zostavax is a live attenuated vaccine (ZVL) that is given once as a single shallow injection, just under the skin (subcutaneous injection). GlaxoSmithKline’s Shingrix is a recombinant vaccine (RZV) that must be reconstituted prior to injection and is administered deeper into the muscle (intramuscular injection). Shingrix is given twice, with the second dose given between two and six months after the first one.

The reported errors associated with Shingrix included administration via the subcutaneous route, a mistake that usually caused significant injection site reactions including pain, severe itching (pruritis), and redness (erythema). Other errors reported were administering the vaccine to patients younger than 50, giving out the wrong vaccine information sheet (VIS), administering just the vaccine’s novel adjuvant without reconstituting it with the actual vaccine antigen, and mistakenly giving the shingles vaccine to a person who was supposed to get chickenpox (varicella zoster) vaccine.

New Adjuvant Turbocharges Immune Response

One of the challenges for manufacturers of inactivated vaccines like Shingrix is that they do not contain a live-virus, which traditionally have provoked stronger immune system responses. The strong immune system response reported for Shingrix is due to one of the new vaccine’s ingredients, QS-21 Stimulon manufactured by Agenus, Inc.

The novel vaccine adjuvant QS-21 Stimulon is a purified extract from the bark of the Quillaja saponaria vergreen, otherwise known as the soap bark tree.5 QS-21 Stimulon is an “immune potent” adjuvant designed to “turbocharge vaccines by strengthening and broadening immune responses (both T cell and antibody mediated) to a vaccine’s antigens.” The new adjuvant is currently under study for use in immune therapies against cancer, HIV, and malaria.6

Shingrix vaccine’s novel adjuvant system, AS01B, not only contains QS-21 Stimulon but also MPL (monophosphyoryl lipid a), an immune-stimulating fat. Shingrix ingredients (per dose) include 50 mcg of the QS-21 and 50 mcg of 3-O-desacyl-4’- monophosphoryl lipid A (MPL) from Salmonella minnesota, as well as 50 mcg of its antigen: recombinant glycoprotein E (gE), along with 20 mg of sucrose (as stabilizer), 4.385 mg of sodium chloride, 1 mg of DOPC, 0.54 mg of potassium dihydrogen phosphate, 0.25 mg of cholesterol, 0.160 mg of sodium dihydrogen phosphate dihydrate, 0.15 mg of disodium phosphate anhydrous, 0.116 mg of dipotassium phosphate, and 0.08 mg of polysorbate 80.7

Severe Side Effects

Even when it is administered according to protocol, the Shingrix vaccine is very reactive. The vaccine’s side effects are known to be more severe than those associated with Zostavax, but public health officials insist the vaccine’s benefits are worth the risk of “skin rash, joint pain, flu-like symptoms, headaches and fatigue” commonly experienced by those who get it.8 Kathleen Dooling, MD of the CDC’s Division of Viral Diseases admitted that more than 70 percent of patients had pain and, “About one in six people experienced side effects so severe that it actually prevented their normal activities.”

In fact, the side effects of Shingrix are so severe that the vaccine’s promoters are concerned that many people will not be willing to go back for the second dose of the vaccine.

Early Warnings of Shingles Epidemic

After participating in a CDC funded study of the effect of widespread use of chickenpox vaccine in California between 1995 and 2002, researcher Gary Goldman, PhD, published a major paper in 2005 warning that the decline in incidence of chickenpox would lead to an increase in children developing shingles.9

In 2003, Goldman predicted that “a large-scale increase in shingles incidence would soon become manifest among adults—a group more susceptible to serious complications.”10

Referring to the “solution” proposed by vaccine manufacturers at the time—to license a booster “shingles” vaccine to substitute for the natural boost in immunity that occurred when people were exposed to wild-type chickenpox in the environment—Goldman said, “This will likely lead to endless disease-and-cure cycles.” 

Questions Remain About the Rising Incidence of Shingles

The incidence of shingles is much higher than it used to be, and it is being seen in younger people, though there is disagreement about the reasons for the increase. Many scientists have suggested that mass vaccination of children with the varicella zoster (chickenpox) vaccine has reduced the presence of the chickenpox virus in the environment, thereby eliminating the natural immune system boost people used to get from exposure to the virus.12 At one point it was thought to provide 20 years of protection, though more current thinking puts the effect at more like two years.12

The current mainstream medical message denies that the chickenpox vaccine is responsible for the observed increase in shingles,13 but others suggest that the knowledge has been deliberately suppressed.14

Clarification: In response to a comment by one of our readers, the word “muzak” in the first paragraph of this article is not misspelled. It was not meant to be “music,” but rather a reference to the background music often played in retail stores, elevators and other public locations.


1 Shingles: Overview. American Academy of Dermatology 2018.
2 National Vaccine Information Center. NVIC Challenges VAERS Data of Chickenpox Vaccine Adverse Events. Press Release Sept. 13, 2000.
3 Esposito L. A New Shingles Vaccine: Prepare for Harsher Side Effects. U.S. News & World Report June 15, 2018.
4 Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Notes from the Field: Vaccine Administration Errors Involving Recombinant Zoster Vaccine — United States, 2017–2018. May 25, 2018.
5 Adjuvants: QS-21 Stimulon®. Agenus. C 2018.
6 Ragupathi G, Gardner JR et al. Natural synthetic saponin adjuvant QS-21 for vaccines against cancer. Expert Rev Vaccines 201; 10(4).
7 Package insert.  GlaxoSmithKline Biologicals. C 2017.
8 See Footnote 3.
9 Raines K, Fisher BL. CDC Accused of Manipulating Shingles Data. The Vaccine Reaction Aug. 19, 2018
10 Threat of Shingles Epidemic from Chickenpox Vaccine. Vaccine Choice Canada Oct. 1, 2003.
11 Raines K. Chickenpox Vaccine May Increase Shingles Risk. The Vaccine Reaction Apr. 26, 2016.
12 Chickenpox Vaccination Does Increase Shingles Cases, but Mainly in Young Adults. Science Daily Aug. 11, 2015.
13 Gordon S. Chickenpox Vaccine Not Responsible for Rise in Shingles, Study Says. WebMD Dec. 2, 2013.
14 Goldman GS. The US Universal Varicella Vaccination Program: CDC Censorship of Adverse Public Health Consequences. Annals of Clinical Pathology Mar. 31, 2018.

105 Responses to "New Supercharged Shingles Vaccine Has Serious Problems"

  1. MaryAnn MxDowell-Miller   September 6, 2018 at 5:21 pm

    The VA doctor in Oklahoma talked my husband in taking the Shingles shot over two years ago. Shortly after taking the shingles shot he started experiencing incontinence. He had never had that problem before. The immediately put him on Flomax for the incontinence. The Flomax made him so confused he was trying to drive on the wrong side of the road. He went to put the electric controlled hatch down on our van and did not step back far enough and the corner of the hatch door hit him right across the eyebrow and knocked him out. He stumbled around, turned toward the street and fell face forward down the drive way. He spent two nights in the hospital for observation as he has four areas of blood bleeding in his brain. With that short stay he acquired hospital induced pneumonia and the next weekend spend three nights in the VA hospital for that.

    • Karen   September 6, 2018 at 9:14 pm

      Wow, thanks for sharing. Many people have no idea of the immediate or delayed symptoms or medical conditions they may develop later on from the vaccine. People need to be educated.

    • Cindy   September 6, 2018 at 9:16 pm

      Oh my gosh how horrible! I’m so sorry to hear that ;(

    • Ritchie MacInnis   November 20, 2018 at 9:58 am

      Your poor husband, it’s a full time job just trying too stay alive !

    • John   December 16, 2018 at 3:07 pm

      My dad received the shingles shot and flu shot at the same time. He had never received a flu shot before and the doctor convinced him to take both at the same time. Three weeks later he is still not feeling like himself. He has shortness of breath, his stamina has decreased, he’s gotten dizzy when walking the dog around the block and that has never happened before. All the issues started right after he received the shots. He called his doctor and the doctor told him that there are no side effects and it has to be something else causing the symptoms.

      • Jack Nimkel   January 9, 2019 at 3:53 pm

        Listen to your doctor.

    • Barbara   January 4, 2019 at 11:24 pm

      I received the Shringrix
      shot in May 2018 and have been suffering since. I was perfectly healthy before receiving this shot! I had a fever, nausea, in bed for days with agonizing pain allover my body. My doctor incorrectly diagnosed me with “reactive arthritis”. I still dont feel well. Lost 30 pounds, legs and arms hurt day and night. I have seen multiple doctors and they seem to think it may have something to do with the vaccine. I thought I had cancer, it was so bad. I’ve had more bloodwork, only shows inflammation. I wonder if I will ever feel well again. I am never going to get that second shot and I will tell everyone, DO NOT get the shringex shot to prevent them from going through misery and hell like I did. I missed a month of work, and am still suffering.

  2. sheldon101   September 6, 2018 at 7:01 pm

    If you want a more effective vaccine, you sometimes have to have a vaccine that will cause more temporary side-effects. I believe the DTP vaccine had one of components a killed whole virus. Because of the side-effects which created much of the anti-vaxxer infrastructure, they went to a vaccine that used just parts of the virus. The vaccine is safer in terms of temporary side-effects but not as effective in terms of efficacy.

    This is seen with flu vaccines where higher dose vaccines are especially used for the elderly, who have a weaker immune response.

    No surprise that the new shingles vaccines will have more temporary side-effects.

    • Jean   September 15, 2018 at 1:06 pm

      No, I don’t want a more effective vaccine. I want to keep my immunity strong by eating organic, sleeping 8 hours a night, exercise, relaxation with music or meditation. And NO Vaccine. No adjuncts of mercury or aluminum that might end up in my brain causing dementia. No thank you.

      • Kate   December 29, 2018 at 4:07 pm

        As if eating organic and getting normal sleep will protect you from disease. If only it were that simple!

    • Kat_Lyb   September 18, 2018 at 11:48 pm

      I don’t believe that the incontinence a woman commented as a side effect experienced by her husband after having received the vaccine is temporary. I’m curious as to what your comment might be regarding the increase of shingles outbreaks since the introduction of the chicken pox vaccine and it’s having heavily removed the chicken pox virus from the population being the cause of this increase?

    • LynnK   December 21, 2018 at 12:03 pm

      Sheldon, You may have all the vaccines that you want..I’ll pass.

  3. Mary   September 6, 2018 at 8:02 pm

    I am just getting over a case of the shingles so would there be any sense in getting the vaccine in the near future?

    • Kathy   October 6, 2018 at 10:02 pm

      They say you should still get Vaccine. I would check with Dr on when to do. I had them when I was 37 and now I’ll be 54. The Drnts me to wait untilm60 to get.

    • Kathy   January 7, 2019 at 3:46 pm

      I had a severe case of shingles in my eye, face, nose, and mouth. It was pure hell. After two months clear I got the Shringrex vaccine. I’ve had my second dose as well. Believe me, any small side effects is worth not getting shingles again. And, even with the vaccine there is still a chance of getting shingles again; hopefully less severe. The shots hurt and my arm stayed sore for about a week. After that, it’s been fine. So far, so good as I haven’t had another outbreak of shingles and hope I never do.

  4. Jan   September 6, 2018 at 11:38 pm

    People need to learn how to cure their shingles if they should experience it. For starters, do what the Austrians and German doctors do……high dose vitamin C, as a lipospheric vit c, and high dose B vitamins.

    • LynnK   December 21, 2018 at 12:05 pm

      You are so right to mention that. It is a long standing way to ..OMG, I am going to say it…cure shingles.

  5. bar45   September 7, 2018 at 1:21 am

    sheldon101, the higher dose flu vaccine that is given to the elderly has never been shown to decrease the incidence or severity of the flu. It was approved solely based on an increase in antibody level in those who received it. So the elderly are being used as guinea pigs.

  6. Kathy   September 7, 2018 at 8:54 am

    When will people understand that when you mess with God’s creation and the normal perfectly capable immine system of healthy people, especially out of greed, you will get burned. You can’t perfect perfection.

  7. Mary   September 7, 2018 at 9:13 am

    VACCINATION IS NOT IMMUNIZATION!! People please wake up. Big Pharma uses you as their guinea pig. They enlist the help of the FDA, CDC and our Congressmen to make sure by law that infants, toddlers, children, young adults get a schedule of 69-74 vaccinations with the most being given as a child.

    Now they are targeting older adults and the elder with their toxic poisons. You need to research and educate yourselves about vaccines. They are dangerous and deadly. Why would you allow a poison to be injected into your healthy or half healthy body to cause health issues?

    Vaccines are nothing more than a money maker for Big Pharma, doctors, Congressmen, the pushers at the FDA and the CDC. They are ALL complicit in having the pockets lined from Big Pharma.

    Why are so many children sick and dying from “rare” cancers and tumors, have neurological issues, muscle issues, auto-immune issues? The single thread running through all these diseases and “rare” cancers is the vaccines that are loaded with mercury, aluminum, fetal tissue, bovine proteins, etc., just to name a few.

    Go to YouTube and WATCH the series on “The Truth About Vaccines.”

    • JimGlaxo   January 14, 2019 at 4:38 am

      I took a chance and got this shot and I am really sorry I did. Since then my glucose has been impossible to control, white cell and lymph count shot up, extreme and long periods of fatigue. The bicep pain lasted several days and soreness lasted close to a month. This shot may end up being the death of me. GlaxoSmithKline is an evil corporation with history of criminal convictions of lying about the effectiveness of their drugs and their horrible side effects including death. The hyped-up trials GSK paid-for finding 95% effectiveness are probably just pure BS. And lots of people complaining on Internet everywhere about serious side effects of Shingrix. GSK is a pack of evil elitist criminals who think they deserve to get rich while cleansing the Earth of the “burden” of the majority of its working and middle classes. If you value your health, don’t use anything this company sells.

  8. j   September 7, 2018 at 2:01 pm

    as with any skull lobotomy, a “temporary side-effect” is great, unless YOU or YOURS are the one(s) that’s injured die, etc.
    Trust your docs & esp. the medical administration who took an oath,
    First Do Big Profit.

    One Less.

  9. Jenna   September 7, 2018 at 6:34 pm

    My theory for the increase in shingles is this.
    Wild chickenpox is becoming less common, and so people are not being exposed throughout their lives, and therefore boosting their antibodies naturally. So, when their health begins to decline in old age and the zoster is reactivated, there are not enough antibodies to fight it. Deleting the chicken pox (if you even believe THAT vaccine works) just made shingles a whole lot more common for EVERYONE. Or maybe they’ll just keep suggesting more and more boosters and our population decreases to the point of extinction…

    • Kat_Lyb   September 18, 2018 at 11:50 pm

      Yes, the article mentions this and I firmly believe this theory is 100% accurate.

  10. Kirk   September 8, 2018 at 9:31 am

    I got the new Shingrix and happy I did !! I had chickenpox at 30ish and shingles at 59. My wife is just getting over shingles. Trust me … you don’t want shingles! Get vaccinated and wear your bandaid proudly.

  11. drbhelthi   September 9, 2018 at 11:32 am

    There is no evidence established by the scientific method that indicates vaccines do what they are alleged to do. NONE.
    Vaccination is based on a “belief”, that was introduced by Edward Jenner of England, about 1790, and proclaimed by his following, who were interested in profitting. Several Jenner family members died from his experimentation, and the Dr. title was awarded as an “honor” rather than earned via formal study.
    Perhaps the highest scientific authority saying vaccines are contaminated is professor Garth Nicolson, cell biologist and editor of the Journal of Clinical and Experiental Metastasis and the Journal of Cellular Biochemistry. Professor Nicholson is one of the most cited scientists in the world, having published over 600 medical and scientific peer-reviewed papers, edited 14 books, and served on the editorial boards of 28 medical and scientific journals.
    Scientist Nicholson states that not only are vaccines contaminated with mycoplasma but warns the US that we are all being damaged by them and contracting chronic, degenerative diseases.
    His videos are at_

  12. redpill   September 19, 2018 at 10:42 pm

    My uncle developed shingles 3 days after he was given the shingle vaccine. This was 5 years ago when he was 83. I warned him not to get it but his Doctor convinced him it was needed. He suffered terribly with that virus and it finally abated 5 months after it developed. However, fighting the infection his health deteriorated. For the next 5 years he was in and out of the hospital and spent the last 2 years in a care facility rather than his home because he needed more attention than my aunt could provide. He died last week and from the time he took that shot he continued to have nerve pain. Is there a connection between his deteriorating health and the Shingles vaccine? I think so.

    • Jeannie Wade   October 2, 2018 at 4:28 pm

      I am not a scientist but I think it highly unlikely that the shot was related to his bout with shingles. It takes longer than 3 days for the virus to take hold. Most likely your uncle had the onset of shingles prior to his injection.
      It is quite possible that if he had declined the injection – and 3 days later developed shingles, he would have regretted not having the injection much earlier.
      All this is impossible to prove but something to ponder.

      • P E Robinson   January 4, 2019 at 8:41 pm

        BS, didn’t you read the lady’s story about her uncle? So according to you all the people getting the shingles vaccine was already getting shingles already. Yea, ok. Please.

      • MJ   January 5, 2019 at 12:16 am

        Shingles is a re-activation of the chickenpox virus that is already in the person’s system,I don’t know how you’d have any real way of testing how quickly a reactivation of a virus can show symptoms, since they are not even sure just what all causes a reactivation. I have known more people who got shingles after getting the Zostavax- anywhere from a couple of months to a year later, than I saw come down with shingles who had never had Zostavax. I worked in a medical office with primarily older adult patients population- 40 & up- I retired just before Shingrix came in.

    • Bob S   January 3, 2019 at 3:46 pm

      I still have nerve pain after one month. No shingles but the nerve pain in my upper arm in NO fun. I am 70 and I hope eventually the pain subsides.

  13. Maxine   September 23, 2018 at 8:45 pm

    My daughter-in-law recently suffered greatly for many weeks from shingles in her ear and tongue. I took the first Shingrix dose and had some ill feelings for a few hours and a very sore arm for several days. Definitely way better than having shingles. People need to stop this nonsense about the danger of vaccines. They forget that many people died from smallpox, or were paralyzed and in an iron lung with polio, or even died from flu before vacccines were developed.

  14. Karen Kordisch   September 27, 2018 at 1:44 pm

    I got shingles 2 days after I had the first Shingrix shot. I had never had shingles before. I reported this to the CDC and the manufacturer who both suggested it was “a coincidence.” I also reported it to VAERS. I have chronic lymphocytic leukemia (CLL), stage 0, so I am only able to take the “dead” vaccine. I don’t think this one is “dead” enough.

    • J.Myers   December 30, 2018 at 9:18 am

      I also just got the new Shingrix Vaccine, Three days ago. Yesterday I got a Shingles outbreak.

  15. Jamie   October 11, 2018 at 6:42 pm

    Both my shingles vaccines have made me very sick with flu-like symptoms, fever and a very achy body. I’m one of the “lucky” 6% who gets this reaction. Tylenol takes care of it, but it’s a pain to be sick for 3 or 4 days after the injection. You feel horrible! However, having had shingles, I’d take these few days of really bad discomfort to having actual shingles any day. I had them in my mid-50’s and it was awful. I cannot imagine how bad it would be at age 70.

    • Karen   December 13, 2018 at 12:42 pm

      Jamie, I agree with you. A few days of feeling crappy is nothing compared to dealing with shingles. The first vaccine was not effective. I got shingles, so did my husband. Yesterday I had my second treatment of the new vaccine. By the evening my arm was really angry. Then I woke about 3:00 AM with chills, a headache, muscle pain added to the pain at the injection site. My husband gave me Tylenol and this morning chills are gone but the other side effects are still there. Still, not nearly as bad as shingles.

      • Susan   December 26, 2018 at 6:38 pm

        I had exactly the same reaction after my 2nd Shingles vaccine. I woke up at 1am shaking with chills, aching all over and just feeling horrible. It went away the next day. 3 weeks later, I woke up at my normal time, took my shower, are breakfast and it but me again! Chills, aching, feeling absolutely awful. I still feel lethargic and weak. I’m wondering if this is going to be a regular occurrence? And when will I have energy agsin?

  16. MARTIN WOLFF   October 11, 2018 at 8:39 pm

    Shingrixed and still kicking.
    I had my first Shingrix shot on 8-1-18, and my second one on 10-7-18. My side effects for both shots was a sore upper arm/shoulder at the site of the injection which lasted for two-to three days, That’s it, nothing else. At 75, and from what I’ve heard about shingles, I’m glad I had the shots. FYI: I heard on that medical news show from a promenant NY hospital discussing this issue, the second Shingrix shot is more effective if given right after a two month wait, rather than waiting any longer, so I acted quickly for my second shot. Hope this gives you the confidence you may need if you’re on the fence. Good luck!!! By the way, my pharmacy, in Prividence, RI, charged me $160 for my second shot. The first shot was $140.

  17. Ellen   October 29, 2018 at 12:36 am

    Jamie, I went through some of the same symptoms in August and then just a few days ago after the second dose. But it’s very preferable to having shingles. A friend of mine has suffered horribly from that disease. She was literally screaming in pain. Another friend’s brother almost went blind from shingles. I could go on but the point has been made. There are risks from vaccines just as there are risks from any other treatment but I am willing to take those risks.

  18. Trisha   November 10, 2018 at 8:51 pm

    I have Rheumatoid arthritis, for which I take orencia infusions monthly.
    My rheumatologist says I should get Shingrix vaccine in between my infusions, which lower T cell activity in my immune system.
    Has anyone taken orencia and Shingrix
    alternately? I am 66.

  19. Kathy   November 13, 2018 at 11:26 am

    I have had a terrible reaction to the second shingles shot a month ago. My right leg burns, tingles and is so painful. I got the typical flu like feelings with headache and head pressure soon after the shot but developed a rash and pain, itching and burning in my leg about 5-7 days after the shot. My doctor said that some people are suffering for up to 6 weeks after the shot so I hope I don’t have shingles and that this will go away soon. Very uncomfortable. Almost went to the ER. I Reported it to CDC FDA GlaxoSmithKline. Doctor and pharmacy didn’t report my reaction. The FDA said they have a hard time getting docs to report.

  20. Charlie   November 15, 2018 at 1:03 pm

    I received my Shingrix vaccine on 9/14/18 and my arm hurt for almost 2 weeks. And by hurt, I mean I could barely use my arm for 2 weeks. I then noticed my ears ringing. I am now on a very strong dose of prednisone while waiting to get my hearing checked and to see an ENT. I have lost a good portion of my hearing in my right ear. I was given the vaccine in my right arm. I will never go to get the second vaccine.

  21. Marvin   November 15, 2018 at 7:02 pm

    Vaccines are dangerous. Someone spoke of polio—Im 64 and had polio at age 5 So everyone thinks polio is gone? What few realize is that hundreds of thousands of folks had polio and didn’t know it. The problems started much later in life with ‘Post Polio Syndrome” and that’s IF the problems are recognized by a specialist.

    Vaccines are now thought to be the cause of the HUGE increase in autism. They cause brain inflammation.

    Regarding this shingles vaccine—someone above is correct—there is ZERO PROOF that it works. How could they prove it? Think about it. WE are all sheep being herded down the money shuts. You know that vaccinations are a 60 BILLION dollar industry???? My father in law didn’t have signs. He got the vaccine and several weeks later had shingles that did NOT GO AWAY for his final two years of life. Coincidense? He was just about to get them anyway? I had chickenpox as a kid. I am afraid of shingles but no way will I do this vaccination.

  22. GoodWill   November 17, 2018 at 5:22 pm

    Got the Shingrix vaccine basically because a popular sports figure was used to advertise. Had no problem with the first dose. But after the second dose began to feel the above mentioned, joint pain, flu-like symptoms, headaches and fatigue.” Mild, but noticeable. That’s why I’m reading the article. It’s true we can’t “prove” the vaccines work because as humans we can’t know the future as to whether we get Shigles or not. I’m just trying to stay in the mainstream, and stay as healthy as possible, by taking advice from people who we trust.

  23. Shela   November 20, 2018 at 5:00 pm

    Had first shot, and the reaction was 1 day of full blown flu, sweats, bones hurt, bed ridden. After having so many bouts of the shingles over the past three years (6 times), I was determined to take the second shot. Well, the second shot put me to bed with the flu for three days! A month later, I got the Shingles AGAIN! So, my advice is: DO NOT TAKE IT!
    If I had it to do all over again, I would have stayed far away from any vaccines. I do not trust them.

    • Lynn K   December 21, 2018 at 12:12 pm

      Get yourself to a ND (Naturopathic doctor). Build your immune system..then you can stop worrying about shingles.

  24. Maxinr   November 22, 2018 at 7:01 pm

    I would tell everyone to not get the new shingles shot. I had it a month ago. I got all the symptoms such as fever tiredness and achiness The next day my left leg just ached. I walk with a cane now and am in pain. I have been to the Dr. And they don’t know of anything to help me. It has ruined my life!!

  25. Kathleen   November 28, 2018 at 11:15 am

    I, too, greatly regret getting the new two-dose shingles vaccine. About a month after the first dose of the vaccine, I started getting minor outbreaks of shingles. At first I thought they were insect or bed bug bites (which I had never had). But these red bumps were more persistent, and had pussy heads, and the pustules were grouped like a rash. It didn’t occur to me that this could be minor shingles until I was reminded to get my second shot. I figured the second shot would stop the outbreaks. A month after the second shot, I developed a moderate case of shingles along a nerve line from my spine to my underarm.

    I had never had shingles before and am 72 years old. The latest outbreak may delay a much-needed surgery I had scheduled.

    My greatest fear is that I will now be prone to shingles for the rest of my life. At the very least, the two shots were ineffective. At the worst, they encouraged or enabled my first experience with shingles.

    Very sorry that I followed my doctor’s advice to have this vaccine and that I did not trust my best instincts to avoid medicine whenever I can.

    Very curious why there is now a “shortage” of this vaccine. Has Glaxo-Smith-Klein withdrawn it from the market?

  26. Darlene MacDonald   December 1, 2018 at 11:27 pm

    I received the first injection on July 26th. It is now Dec. 1, 2018 and continue to have severe arm pain from my shoulder to my elbow. Can’t put my arm behind my back or over my head. The pain is continuous, sometimes feeling like the needle is still in my arm. It just doesn’t get any better and my doctor has no solution to ease the pain. I will not get the second dosage!

    • Louise   December 3, 2018 at 2:13 pm

      Trya chiropractor adjustment and acupuncture treatment. Sounds like you have a clog and it is just sitting there… needs to be circulated and moved out of your system.

    • Vicky   December 5, 2018 at 11:36 pm

      This has also happened to me Darlene. I am now 6 months out & my vaccinated arm still causes me those problems on some days. It isn’t every day thank goodness however, my arm is still much weaker than the other arm as well as my legs. I regret getting this vaccine.

    • SD   December 17, 2018 at 4:48 pm

      I’ve had a very similar reaction. I’m 55 and got the first Shingrix dose Oct 2018. I did not get the 2nd shot. I got the shot in my left arm (I’m right hand dominant). For about 4 days, it felt like someone punched me in the arm. I also had fatigue and fever for 24 hours. Then I noticed it was painful to use my arm, pick up objects, extend my arm, etc. The pain was mostly in my left elbow. I thought it was arthritis or tendonitis. I mentioned it to my Dr. but he wrote it off as getting older and aches and pains. It hurts when I sleep too. I can’t figure out why when it’s at rest that it hurts. I get some tingling at times too. My Dr. told me to take Aleve. I got a massage a few days ago hoping it would help but arm hurts worse and is bruised. It feels like I spent about an hour lifting heavy weights and its muscle fatigue and pain. I thought I was being paranoid, but now that I am seeing others reactions, I think this is from the vaccine. As much as I don’t want Shingles, I am afraid of what will happen after the 2nd vaccine and also worried that this pain I have now is permanent.

      • Bob S   January 3, 2019 at 3:51 pm

        You are not paranoid. I am experiencing the very same symptoms. It’s has been 30 days since I got vaccinated. My left arm (injection site) has nerve pain and is no fun. No doctor can solve this. My hope is that eventually go away.

  27. Catherine   December 3, 2018 at 1:29 pm

    I received the first injection in September and was terribly ill. Besides the common and NOT so common side effects I broke out in blisters on one side of my face including blisters on the rims of my eye lids. Without immediate treatment I could have been blinded. In spite of treatment, I was ill for nearly a month. Injection side swelling, fever, fatigue, aches, sleeping issues, arm pain, stomach issues, bathroom issues, rapid heartbeat and blisters on my face. My doctor agreed that I should NOT have the second shot. Even if she had not, I would have declined.

  28. MickeyTheMiserable   December 5, 2018 at 7:44 pm

    I had the first dose of Shingrix my doctor’s office administered and suffered no ill affects whatsoever.
    I was surprised when told I needed to get a Shingrix injection and reminded them that I had the very first one when they received them. I didn’t realize there were two in the series. I had Shingles within a week from being released from the hospital for hip replacement surgery in 2016 and never wanted that experience again so I had no apprehensions getting the second shot, which took place on a Friday afternoon.
    Monday morning, I left a tearful message for my doctor’s Medical Assistant complaining that there was definitely something wrong. I feared I was having an allergic reaction or something because the pain in my arm was unbearable. I take Percocet for pain for ever since I had extensive back surgery years ago, but it did absolutely nothing at all for the pain in my arm at the injection cite.
    The Medical Assistant called me back and said they were surprised they didn’t hear from me after the first shot because virtually every one of their patients that had the first Shingrix shot contacted their office with complaints of horrible pain. She went on to say that several patients adamantly refused the second shot. I informed her that if I had this type of reaction to the first injection, there most definitely would NOT have been a second. But I consoled myself that I was spared any problems from the first shot.
    It will be three weeks since the injection the day after tomorrow. I am STILL experiencing bouts of pain so bad they wake me up from a sound sleep, and it is virtually impossible to get back to sleep. Just when I think it may be letting up, the pain comes back in full force. Seriously??? Three weeks of what can only be described as hell. When will it end??? Or, will it end??? I keep trying to remind myself how miserable Shingles was and this is the means to an end. But Shingles eventually subsided. It was horrible. I woke up screaming in pain. But it did finally stop.
    Is there any assurance this will ever subside??
    I have absolute faith in my health care provider and feel she is THE BEST there is! But, because I was the first, I firmly believe if she had any inkling there was a possibility of this horrific agony, she would have warned me. It’s useless to regret my decision now. What’s done is done. But if I have to deal with this for the rest of my life, I have decided to use every method I can think of to get the word out to warn folks of what may be in store for them.
    Does anybody have any suggestions for alleviating the pain? If I have to endure this for the rest of my life (and they live forever in my family), I fear that my quality of life will be ruined to the point of total despair.

  29. Vicky   December 5, 2018 at 11:30 pm

    I took this vaccine this past Spring & Summer 2018. The first vaccine (Shingrix) really made my arm sore for several days. I didn’t expect that. After the second injection, I have had problems. For several months, both my legs & my left arm were so weak I could hardly use them. My Left arm was also very, very painful, especially in the joint. I actually got scared that the vaccine was going to cause permanent muscle damage to my arm & maybe other muscles in my body. My last injection was in June & I still have days where the pain is very strong & I can’t lift my arm past shoulder height. Right now as I type, I notice fatigue & weakness in my left arm. I accepted the vaccine when I went in for my yearly VA appointment. I should have known better than to take something that had not been out in the public long enough. I regret getting the vaccine & hope it doesn’t continue to affect muscles such as my HEART!

  30. Karen A.   December 6, 2018 at 6:35 pm

    All good to know….after the fact.

    I had a horrible reaction, knocked me down for 3 days, and I have had 6 severe skin rashes…the worst of which was on my FACE., which has caused scarring. Never again. Let me know when the costs action suit begins, I have pictures of the rash and scarring, which a dermatologist advised can only be fixed with extreme and costly dermabrasion or plastic surgery.

  31. Peter   December 9, 2018 at 7:45 am

    I had the new shingles vaccine. No problems.I had chicken pox as a child. I am 76 years old.

  32. Lisa   December 10, 2018 at 11:49 pm

    I had to be hospitalized (and missed two weeks of work and accumulated $1000s in medical bills) after my first shingles vaccine. Reaction started with fever and nausea, followed by numbness, tingling, and pain from head to toe. Also double vision and loss of balance. Diagnosis; inflammation of the brain and spine caused by adverse reaction to vaccine. Three months later I’m still experiencing tingling and numbness in my arms, back, and legs, along with weakness in my legs. Wondering if my body will ever feel normal again?

  33. Marcie Taylor   December 11, 2018 at 9:10 pm

    I’m 51, got the Shingrix vaccine end of August. For the last 10 weeks I’ve had excruciating shoulder pain that has radiated down to my arms. At first I thought it was Bursitis. But looked in the calendar and it’s time for my 2nd shot, and it hit me…”I wonder if it could have been the shingles vaccine”. Sure enough, I’m reading stories similar to mine. It’s so painful at night at that I can’t find a comfortable position, and can’t sleep. My arm muscles (biceps, forearms and inner elbow joints feel like I lifted too many weights the day before. Can no longer open jars, lifts things, walk my dog. I cannot even make a muscle when I clench my fist anymore. I can’t take my shirts off and on anymore without extreme effort and pain. It’s as if the muscles have actually atrophied. I tried to throw something into the trash out of habit and it actually made me scream it hurt so badly. I’m usually really tough about pain…but this is ridiculous, and I am so pissed that it could be from this vaccine!!!

  34. Glenda Vesich   December 13, 2018 at 1:00 pm

    I had the Mew Shingles Vaccine shot in July 2018..let me tell arm hurt so bad. Could not raise it..had a fever of oer 102° ..hurt all over..and was so tired..was in Bed for over 3 just call me today finally for 2nd Shot..I really don’t think that’s a Good Idea!!!

  35. Linda   December 13, 2018 at 6:07 pm

    Can shingles be taken with osteoporosis meds and or bioidentical hormone therapy meds

    Still after researching questions of dexa scans..meds all different suggestions by different drs..opinions from research ctrs.can not get an actual picture of my bones..pharma companies making taking z score off dexa screenings. Who should we really trust..have me stressed out on honest answers and among other things my poor husband went thru 4 bad ablations and a robotic surgery for afib in 2006 which we are no told no longer is done..any honest medical physicians facilities out there or are our bodies just a test to have drug companies make $$$off of us and same goes for surgeons on us hardworking US citizens. Sad😂🇺🇸

  36. Ellen K Ginise   December 14, 2018 at 1:39 am

    My husband is diabetic on insulin and had leg amputation 1 1/2 yrs ago after 1st shot he developed large blister on toe end of Sept 2018 Blister wouldn’t heal Had 2nd shot around Nov 20th 2018 administer by VA. Toe turned black about 2 weeks later and had to be amputated I can’t help feeling this had something to do with blister he got to begin with. Maybe shot shouldn’t be given to everyone

  37. sd   December 17, 2018 at 4:38 pm

    Marcie- I’ve had a very similar reaction. I’m 55 and got the first Shingrix dose Oct 2018. I did not get the 2nd shot. I got the shot in my left arm (I’m right hand dominant). For about 4 days, it felt like someone punched me in the arm. Then I noticed it was painful to use my arm, pick up objects, extend my arm, etc. The pain was mostly in my left elbow. I thought it was arthritis. I mentioned it to my Dr. but he wrote it off as getting older and aches and pains. It hurts when I sleep too. I can’t figure out why when it’s at rest that it hurts. I get some tingling at times too. My Dr. told me to take Aleve. I got a massage a few days ago hoping it would help but arm hurts worse and is bruised. You described it well. It feels like I spent about an hour lifting heavy weights and its muscle fatigue and pain. I can lift my arm. I thought I was being paranoid, but now that I am seeing others reactions, I think this is from the vaccine. As much as I don’t want Shingles, I am afraid of what will happen after the 2nd vaccine and also worried that this pain I have now is permanent.

  38. Rodney   December 17, 2018 at 8:06 pm

    If you’ve ever seen anyone with post herpetic neurology than you will line up to get the vaccine. My wife has it now and it’s been three months since the blisters have left and she’s almost suicidal the pain is so bad. Numerous ER trips for a few hours of pain relief and the pain comes back by the time we get home. I had the old Zoster shot years ago and got the first dose of Shingrix two months ago and when I get to the front of the waiting list for the second shot I’ll be there when they open the door. I wouldn’t wish this on anyone. It’s bad people.

    • Rodney   January 10, 2019 at 3:14 pm

      My wife still has post herpetic neurophy after shingles and it’s not getting any better. We are afraid it will be a lifetime issue. DO NOT GET SHINGLES !

  39. Tim   December 19, 2018 at 10:35 pm

    I got my first shingles shot on Monday morning at 8:00 am. By Monday night my arm was getting real sore and my back was aching. So I went to bed at about 9:00 pm. At 2 am my wife woke me up asking what was wrong. I was shaking so bad I woke her up. Every bone in my body hurt and I was freezing. Slept all Day and night Tuesday no energy and just felt awful. Today is Thursday and I’m just starting to feel like myself. But I’ve had friends and family suffer with shingles and believe me it lasts a lot longer than a few days.

  40. Gaby S.   December 20, 2018 at 1:27 am

    I had a vaccination against shingles 5 years ago and got shingles after 2 years in my right ear. Had to go to the ER twice for the pain in my ear and head on the right side. Developed dizziness, which I have to this day. Tests were done and the result: permanent damage to the inner ear nerves. When I heard of this new vaccine Shingrex I had my first dose in September of this year and the second one 2 days ago. This time I seem to have more discomfort, swelling and a big red, sore bump on my arm. If this will subside and the flue like symptoms will disappear, i’ll be happy! Hopefully, I won’t develop the awful reactions which people are reporting here. I got to live with this debilitating dizziness and just hope not to get Shingles again. I am 76 years old.

  41. Mike B   December 21, 2018 at 10:08 am

    The shingles vaccine was the only thing new in my life/diet/etc when I developed severe pain in my feet, swelling in my ankles and lower legs which became a severe red rash on my legs, arms and abdomen for weeks, doctors are “stumped” and even did a biopsy on the rash(waiting for results). I’m convinced it was all caused by this vaccine.

  42. Bob   December 21, 2018 at 10:39 am

    I got the first Shingrix dose four days ago (Dec. 17, 2018) and have had flu like symptoms starting the next day and still going strong. I’ve experienced cough, headache, fever, really sore injection site and fever along with a rash over my upper body. I’m hoping the next dose doesn’t cause such a severe reaction. I have taken flu vaccines for the last 20 years and never had anywhere near this level of reaction. I will have invested $300. in this preventative vaccine when all is said and done. Really questioning why the reactions are downplayed by medical folks,

  43. Deborah Olson   December 21, 2018 at 9:35 pm

    I also just received my second dose. The first dose did not bother me. The second dose caused heart palpitations the next morning and extreme fatigue for 2 days. But what concerns me now is I have a pimple like area the size of a nickel next to my ear (same side as vaccine). I never have pimples. Hope it is just a coincidence.

  44. Sara   December 24, 2018 at 1:07 pm

    Is there any danger (beyond not full protection) if I choose not to get the second shot of Shingrix? My reaction to the first was 3 days of flu-like symptoms and after reading the posts, I’m concerned the second shot might be even worse.

  45. maria   December 24, 2018 at 6:43 pm

    i am 82 years old and hardly have any area and discomfort more than a week a month —
    should i considered such vaccine? is it worth it for me?

  46. Richard and Ellen Berman   December 25, 2018 at 6:41 pm

    In the summer of 2018, my wife had the second Shingriz injection. A few hrs later she almost died – REALLY!! She is allergic to bee stings so she always has her Epi-pen close at hand, thank goodness. A while after the injection of the second dose of Shingrix, she told me she was having the same reaction as a bee sting (no bee sting, however)and in minutes she was having an anaphylactic episode. She injected herself with her Epi-pen, we jumped in the car and halfway to the hospital, she collapsed on my shoulder and said, “I don’t think I’ll make it.” The ER docs and nurses were fantastic and a few hrs later she was discharged. Bottom line – be extra careful with Shingriz if you have allergic reactions!! Not sure it’s ready for prime time.

  47. Richard and Ellen Berman   December 27, 2018 at 12:46 am

    My wife almost died from an allergic reaction from Shringrix. I posted her story and I was expecting it to be posted in the hope I could help others. However, I don’t see it on this blog, why? Shingrix is potentially fatal for those who have previously suffered from anaphylaxis.
    Not overacting as we have an ER experience to prove it.

  48. TC Pleasants   December 27, 2018 at 6:20 pm

    I got my first Shringrix shot in August 2018. My arm was sore and I didn’t feel very well but that all went away in about 2 days. Then I started to notice how sore my joints felt and my muscles felt sore and I had aches and pains in my legs and arms. To be honest I did not immediately connect it to my Shringrix shot. It has steadily gotten worse and it is now hard to sleep. my arms and shoulders ache all the time. Sometimes it is a low-level manageable ache and sometimes it is incapacitating. I can not sleep at night and the throbbing muscle spasms in my legs wake me up throughout the night. My knees are sore and I feel very fragile. I can not believe this has happened. The doctors deny it is connected to this shot but too many people are experiencing this for it to all be a coincidence. The shot is not available now for the second dose as they say there is just too much demand and they will let me know when it is my turn. I will not get another shot and I truly believe they are trying to keep us calm without admitting they are trying to figure this out. Today my pharmacist said that no one nationwide has the shot available as the CDC says they are trying to produce enough vaccine to release so it covers second doses and new patient vaccinations. I don’t believe them. I think they are holding back while they try to get a handle on what is happening. I have very little faith we are being told the truth. I am trying to tell myself that these side effects will lessen and eventually go away. I am just not sure I will ever feel healthy and whole again.

  49. C. Paulsen   December 29, 2018 at 12:05 pm

    I am 62, I had chickenpox as a child. I received the second new shingles shot two weeks ago. I am a teacher, never a sick day taken in all my years. I now have shingles from the shingles shot. I have, HAD a perfect immune system. Should have never listened to my doctor.

  50. J. Myers   December 30, 2018 at 9:21 am

    I got the Shingles two days after receiving the Shingrix vaccine on 12/28/2018. Not A happy camper as I thought this was supposed to PREVENT them.

  51. JP   December 31, 2018 at 1:59 pm

    I am a 60 yo female, I am in good health, exercise and eat well.
    My husband and I got our first shot 3 days ago.
    Both of us felt bad the next day with flu like symptoms. The next day we were feeling better but by noon I was getting extreme inflammation in both leg nerves.
    I now have extreme pain at bottom of foot the nerve ending. It does not respond to ice. I have a feeling of chills, virus caused. I did have Valcyclovir and so started using that. I hope it will modify the response. I would recommend anyone considering this vaccine to have Valcyclovir available just in case as it can be used for
    Shingles. I am on crutches and waiting for inflammation to subside, God willing. I am not going to get the second shot. I am concerned about this vaccine rollout as a giant experiment on the public. When you research it you find only 1 of 4 people get shingles and if you can use antiretrovirals to limit the response why in the hell would you take a chance on a vaccine?. No more vaccines for me.

  52. Richard and Ellen Berman   January 1, 2019 at 6:23 pm

    Thank you for posting our story. I should have mentioned that after my wife was discharged from the ER, we called the CDC and left a message outlining her experience with Shringrix with the name and address of the hospital. We didn’t hear back with a few days so we called again and left a second message. Still no return call from the CDC.

  53. LC   January 1, 2019 at 8:51 pm

    I became very ill from the first and now from the second vaccine. I also have a rash. My arm is painful throughout including under my arm.

  54. Linda   January 2, 2019 at 12:35 am

    I received the flu shot in early September, followed by the Shingrix shot in early October. I was perfectly healthy at the time of the shots.

    6 weeks later I started having tingling and burning in my feet, then I lost the use of my legs and had to drag myself around, my knees would buckle, I suffered extreme fatigue, I had trouble holding my urine, had diarrhea. Then the tingling and burning moved up to my groin area. Then I had trouble swallowing my food and developed a cough. Finally went up to my neck area.

    I had episodes of dizziness and lose of balance. I fell all the time. I needed help getting out of my chair. I still have the symptoms.


  55. Lorie Irwin   January 2, 2019 at 7:27 am

    I received my first shingles shot in september. I came down with shingles two and a half months later. Prior to the shingles outbreak I had inflammation in my right knee so bad I couldn’t walk until I got on prednisone for six days.

  56. Iowa   January 3, 2019 at 3:56 pm

    I received the LIVE singles shot when I turned 60. Five years/tears ago. Worst thing I could have ever done to my body. I had never had shingles until I received that shot. It was a very bad case of shingles and I can honestly say it took me a good two months to feel like myself again. Never again, and I will continue to tell about my experience to anyone who will listen in the hope that they can be spared some of the misery I endured. I don’t believe our bodies can handle all the injections we are told will help us or as they say, lessen the effects of shingles should we get it. BS! No more shingles or even flu shots for me, I AM DONE!

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  58. Barbara   January 4, 2019 at 11:41 pm

    I received shringex shot in May 2018 and I am still suffering! DO NOT get the shot, I want to prevent needless suffering! I was perfectly healthy before shringex shot. I am 60 but feel like I’m 90. A few days after shot, I felt sick, nausea and fever, in bed for five days with excruciating pain. Went to doctor, did blood work, diagnosed with “reactive arthritis” and told me to see a rheumatologist. Out of work for a month, had never called in sick in eleven years! Swollen ankles, pain all over, could hardly walk. Lost 30 pounds. Thought I must have cancer! Went to multiple doctors, had numerous scans
    Xrays. They didnt know what was wrong with me. All my bloodwork was normal, except for some inflammation. Second opinion rheumatologist said NOT reactive arthritis. Finally a heumatologist said yes it may be due to the vaccine. I am STILL suffering. Pain in shoulders, arms, and a lot of pain in legs. Complete fatigue. I struggle to go to work each day. I experienced depression. I was even told by one doctor it was all in my head! What a complete nightmare looking for answers. I know the answer, it was that shingles shot that ruined my health. Hopefully I will recover eventually.

  59. PLAlken   January 9, 2019 at 9:58 am

    I had no oriblems with my first shingrix shot, other than pain at the injectiin site. The night after my second ahot I experienced about two hours of chilks and was fatigues the next day but have had no lingering effects. I am so glad I got the shot and so glad I’ve got only a 10% chance if getting shingles—never had the, din’t want them—-ever.

  60. Jim Hall   January 10, 2019 at 9:33 am

    I had the original Shingles shot 10 years ago after a facial bought with shingles. No reaction. Now I have had the the secondary vaccine. Both shots in the space of 4 months. For me the shots were a combination of being kicked by a mule where the shot was given. A 3 inch wide rash and pain in legs, weakness several hours after getting the shots. All in all it is still a small price to pay for the shingles pain on my face when I had the shingles. Your odds of getting shingles as you age doubles every ten years and 1 in 3 will have had them by age 80. You will never forget the pain of shingles. A friend of mine in his late 70s had shingles for 6 months and it almost killed him. SO you have to be the judge. Talk to your doctor first. Sometimes the supply is hard to get and you may have to get on a wait list.

  61. Jerome Boerste   January 10, 2019 at 12:43 pm

    Had the vaccine in July of 18 and a month later had unexplained rash under both arm pits which itched…took over a month to go away, but came back after the flu vaccine in Oct of 18. Rash was more mild, but took a few weeks to disappear. I was not going to get the second vaccine, but my doctor convinced me to do so and the rash was not related th shingles. Received the 2nd vaccine in Jan 19 and for 24 hours had severe flu like systems. All side effects were gone except for wheezing after a few days. Both shots/vaccine left my arm swollen and painful for 3 days. My wheezing never went away and am now being treated for pneumonia and bronchitis. I think the 2nd vaccine is causing all of this. Prior to the vaccines never had any medical concerns…I am now 60 and am worried what kind of damage has been done. I do not recommend rje Shingrix vaccines. Please say a prayer for me.

  62. Jill   January 10, 2019 at 1:09 pm

    I got the shingrix shot Dec. 12th 2018 and the next week I was showing my GP itchy red bumps on the opposite arm that I could not explain. Not painful, but very itchy. She agreed that it looked like it could be related to chicken pox/shingles, but not sure. They went away within a week, but more bumps arrived a couple weeks later on the arm below where I was given the shot, and on my neck. I am using a topical anti-itch cream to control it. I hope this will be the end of it. After reading all this I am sorry I did the first shot.

  63. Ahidley   January 10, 2019 at 1:53 pm

    If you get a flu shot you may get slight flu symptoms. So what, it’s not a big deal.
    I got the first shingles shot and got mild shingles symptoms. Again, so what, it’s Norma big deal.
    So now I go back for the second shot and it’s not available. This is because of all you whiny a$$ bitches complaining of mild discomfort.
    I hope you realize the misery that shingles will give you. Because now your not going to be vaccinated and will be at risk for the rest if your life.
    So when you get shingles please don’t complain because you have already made your decision to take the chance.

  64. Chris Rutledge   January 10, 2019 at 6:17 pm

    I have found Doctors and pharmacists under-disclose the significant number of people who get a two day, flu like reaction to both first and second shots. The Doctor from the CDC, on the other hand, notes this is a prevalent reaction. Symptoms are like a moderate short flu – aching muscles, joints, creakyness, tiredness, that come on about 5-8 hours after the shot. People taking this excellent defensive injection should be advised to time it so they have 2 days of possible rest and lower functionality after the shot. Not a fun injection, but far better than getting shingles – whose possible after- effect complications can be truly nasty and long lasting.

  65. Donna McCowan   January 11, 2019 at 1:53 am

    My husband has had the shingles for months and I can assure you he would pay any amount of money to not have them. he has been miserable for months. I had the vaccine and my arm was very sore for a few days but it is worth it if I avoid the shingles.

  66. Jeanne Jackson   January 12, 2019 at 11:35 pm

    I have a prescription for the two shingle shots. I am so glad to be able to read all these comments from your readers. I have changed my mind about getting these two shots. So many people suffered the SAME problems after the shots. That is terrible….muscles, legs, face, neck, and ear problems! IF I get the shingles, I will just grin and bear it until gone. I really thank all your readers for their input.

  67. Jim   January 14, 2019 at 4:33 am

    I took a chance and got this shot and I am really sorry I did. Since then my glucose has been impossible to control, white cell and lymph count shot up, extreme and long periods of fatigue. The bicep pain lasted several days and soreness lasted close to a month. This shot may end up being the death of me. GlaxoSmithKline is an evil corporation with history of criminal convictions of lying about the effectiveness of their drugs and their horrible side effects including death. The hyped-up trials GSK paid-for finding 95% effectiveness are probably just pure BS. And lots of people complaining on Internet everywhere about serious side effects of Shingrix. GSK is a pack of evil elitist criminals who think they deserve to get rich while cleansing the Earth of the “burden” of the majority of its working and middle classes. If you value your health, don’t use anything this company sells.

  68. Jeanne Dunn   January 14, 2019 at 12:06 pm

    I had the singles shot (RZV) on Saturday, January 12, 2019. I had no soreness or other reaction that day. On Sunday morning, January 13, 2019, I woke up with extreme dizziness while I was lying flat. I was actually unable to get up and walk. I also had chills and nausea. I was transported by ambulance to the ER. Many tests were performed and nothing was found. I can’t help but think it was a very severe reaction to the immunization. I am wondering if my PCP will/will not recommend that I get the second shot.

  69. A shot in the dark   January 14, 2019 at 1:30 pm

    I am considering getting the vaccine. I am also a nurse. In looking over the comments regarding arm pain/issues following injections, I would offer this anecdote.
    My daughter worked at a large grocery chain that has a popular pharmacy. Since they offered free employee flu shots she got one. The day after her shot she started having problems with her arm. Pains shooting up and down, weakness, occasional numbness, etc.
    After questioning her about where she got the shot, it appears it was given fairly high up, less into the “meat” of the deltoid muscle. She observed that was where all the shots were injected. I actually went there and observed myself. Sure enough, that’s how the pharmacists were doing it.
    Now I have nothing against pharmacists. But if some have been improperly taught how to administer intramuscular injections, this may account for some problems.
    It took her over 6 months and physical therapy to get back on track. Her md thinks there was nerve damage.
    Ever since then we have only gotten vaccinated at our doctors office. The problem now is many doctors are not buying the shingrix as it’s cheaper to send their patients to the chain drug stores.

  70. Grace   January 14, 2019 at 4:23 pm

    I had the new shingles shot in May 2018. Shortly after that my left leg went to “sleep “ and has not woke up yet. I went to emergency and had all kinds of tests. They thought at first it was a stroke. NO Signs of that. I have been to many Drs and the only conclusion is that it was the result of the singles shot. Needless to say I never had the second one. The last Dr said it is called transfer myelitis. So I am stuck feeling like I am dragging a lead left leg with my at all times. Hard to get around.

  71. Mark   January 14, 2019 at 6:09 pm

    I received my first dose of Shingrix on Sept. 17. In addition to the site pain (which I expected), my entire body felt miserable all night. Less than 20 hours later, I suffered a pontilar stroke (in my brainstem) and was ambulanced to the hospital. Fortunately, the stroke was minor and I was sent home with an aspirin and Plavix regimen. I spoke to one doctor who said that vaccines can prompt the Fight or Flight Response, which can include hypercoagulation, and that may have brought on the stroke.

    Four weeks later, I suffered an epidural hematoma in my spine (worst pain that I’ve ever experienced). Another ambulance ride! I quickly became paralyzed from the waist down until they were able to get some steroids in me and some platelets to stop the bleeding. Since I was improving and gaining my feeling back in my legs, the neurosurgeon wanted to forestall a laminectomy intended to relieve pressure from the bleed, which he said was most likely caused by the Plavix.

    Now I have mostly recovered and am only dealing with some sciatic pain down one leg and overall weakness. What a fun ride! Am I taking the second dose of Shingrix? As my doctor said, shingles may hurt like hell, but they’re unlikely to kill me. The vaccine just might.

  72. Linda   January 15, 2019 at 12:31 am

    I got the shingrix shot (first dose) in Oct 2018) along with the flu shot. Left me very achy and sore for several days, esp the arm i got the shingrix shot in. Tomorrow I’m due to get the second and final dose. While i don’t look forward to the shot or the soreness, I watched my roommate as he dealt with shingles 3 years ago and still has issues with it to this day. He will also be getting this shot soon, due to insurance issues.

  73. Cindy   January 15, 2019 at 2:00 pm

    I am 62 yrs old. Had what my Dr. deamed, the worst case of shingles she’d seen in her 24 years of practice. It looked as if I had 3rd degree burns. I could not take the medicine they gave me at the ER, to lighten its duration, because I got an “instant” debilitating migraine. Gabapentin, Morphine, Hydrocadone, you name it.. nothing took the pain away. I felt as if I were being burned alive and surgically cut open without anesthesia! Believe it or not, Enduring the pain of rubbing peroxide on it all, really dried it all up, ICING the entire area, before peroxide, Benadryl and Ibuprofen, helped better than all else. That all happened when I was 56 years old. I have PERMENANT nerve damage now.. extreme nueropathy from the shingles. Having been there, I was definitely one who advertised the shingles immunization. But after reading the ingrediences in both types of shingles vacs, and hearing these horror stories of side affects.. I have reconcidered calling it quits on my advertisements! Even though at this exact moment, my uncle (66yrs old) is suffering from a severe case of shingles that started the very next morning after getting his flu-pneumonia- pertusis- hepititis and so on, vacinations. Curious as to whether or not they slipped the shingles vac in with all the rest. ( he didn’t get all vacs the same day, it was a period of 1-1/2 weeks. But right after his last pertusis +vac. ) Grant it, his shingles might not be from his vacs, but attacked the area.. sore and vulnerable. when his defense mechanisms were compromised. Wholy cow, may you all get through such an attack!

  74. Brenlee Sewell   January 16, 2019 at 3:57 pm

    I am one of the many people who are suffering from the new Shingles vaccination. My glucose shot up to 357 for several days! I manage my diabetes very well and this was a shock to me. My biceps became so sore I could barely move my arms; my knees were in extreme pain, could barely walk and the fatigue is extremely bad. It has been 1 month since the shot and I feel like an invalid. If I had known this would be the reaction (after the second) shot I would have NEVER, NEVER gotten vaccinated! My life feels like it has been ruined. I am hoping and praying this shot did not give me a horrible debilitating disease. I want to feel like myself again instead of being weak and very sore all over. Someone should sue Glaxo company for what they have done to us!! “What are they trying to do….THIN the herd”


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