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The Underlying Problem With Vaccine “Experts”

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I think one of the most misused words in the English language is “expert.” Experts are often cited by media outlets that are always searching for people to interview for their news stories and programs. Governments also regularly seek counsel from experts on policy decisions or ideas. Perhaps nowhere are experts as popular as in the field of health care. This has been especially true during the COVID-19 pandemic, notably when it comes to vaccination. If you happen to have an MD, MPH, PhD or RN at the end of your name and you march in lockstep with the mainstream narrative on this medical procedure, chances are you qualify as an expert on vaccines.

Of course, the problem is that most so-called experts on vaccines, in fact, know very little about these pharmaceutical products because the time they’ve spent studying, writing and engaging on all aspects of the subject can often be measured in days or months, rather than years. Note that I’m excluding specialists such as vaccinologists whose careers focus on the development of vaccines or pediatricians whose practices focus largely on administering vaccines or pharmacists and other health care providers who also spend a fair amount of time giving shots.

I’m also omitting pharmaceutical representatives who sell and market vaccines and advise those who administer, approve and recommend them. Neither am I counting public health officials who approve, recommend and fund vaccines based on information provided by representatives of the pharmaceutical companies that develop, produce, sell and market them and scientists and doctors who develop and administer them.

Being adept at some of the processes that help make the vaccine industry so large, financially successful and powerful does not necessarily make someone an expert on vaccines. At best, it may make them an expert in one or more narrow areas of the industry, but not someone who has a comprehensive understanding of vaccines and their effects.

Health Care Professionals are Seldom Well-Educated on Vaccines

The reality is that most health care professionals have received practically no formal education on vaccines, and certainly not a well-rounded one. “We were told that vaccines are safe and effective, here’s the schedule, ignore the inserts… that’s lawyer jargon,” said pediatrician Cammy Benton, MD. “I think in medical school you’re learning so much that it’s kind of difficult to learn, that you assumed [with] vaccines the science was settled, tried and true. So you just didn’t question it, that was the easy part… okay, this is for sure. So you just accept it.”1

James Neuenschwander, MD, who specializes in emergency medicine, said that when he went to medical school, there was “not much training at all” on vaccines. “I don’t know that it’s changed very much, he said. “Basically, it was… here’s the schedule. These are the saviors of mankind, they are safe, and you need to make sure everybody’s vaccinated.”1

“I don’t remember them teaching me anything about adverse effects… at all,” said internist Patricia Ryan, MD. “They just wanted you to memorize the schedule and make sure you knew when to give [the vaccines].”1

“The only thing we learned in [medical] school was that there was a program and that we should follow that vaccine program,” said pediatrician Ramon Ramos, MD. As to the vaccine itself and the contents of the vaccines, no we didn’t study that. We assumed that what the pharmaceuticals, that what they did and the CDC accepted, that that’s the way it is.”1

“We got a lot of microbiology, we learned about diseases, and we learned that vaccines were the solution to those diseases that, what they say, are ‘vaccine preventable.’ But, actually, what was in the vaccines, I don’t remember really learning anything,” said pediatrician Paul Thomas, MD. “I was never taught, when I was in medical school 30 years ago, what was in a vaccine. We were only taught they’re wonderful.”1

According to biochemist Boyd Haley, PhD:

I can tell you, having been in a medical center, having taught biochemistry to medical students, and talking to hundreds of medical doctors, they get very little training in toxicology… I mean, no courses that are specifically designed, such as a PhD student in toxicology would have, or a PhD student in biochemistry. They don’t understand it at all. They are not trained to evaluate the toxic effects of chemicals, especially at the research level. One, they don’t do research programs, they don’t have the insight that’s developed and required for someone writing a PhD thesis in toxicology or biochemistry of materials that inhibit enzymes. They just don’t understand the science and the chemistry at that level. And certainly pediatricians don’t.1 2

“You’d be amazed at the number of physicians when you ask them what’s in a vaccine they’ll say, well, there’s the bacteria, the virus you want to vaccinate against, and then there’s a little immune stimulant in there to help stimulate the immunity so they react against those viral antigens,” said neurosurgeon Russell Blaylock, MD. “They don’t know about these other chemicals in there like formaldehyde, special proteins, special lipids that are known to be brain toxic, that are known to induce autoimmunity in the brain. They’re not aware of that. They don’t know that MSG is in a lot of vaccines―monosodium glutamate, a brain excitotoxin. They’re not aware of what’s in the vaccine they’re giving.”1

“We learned what [vaccines] were, what the diseases were,” said Joseph Mercola, DO. “We probably learned more about the diseases and, of course, everyone accepted the dogma that vaccines work. There was just no critical analysis about the pros and cons. It was never discussed, let alone the side effects.”1

“It’s not that I knew much about vaccines,” said pediatrician Toni Bark, MD. “I did a pediatric residency and you don’t really learn anything. You’re taught the schedule, that’s really what you’re taught about vaccines. You’re taught the schedule and that it produces antibodies and that’s it. You don’t get any information on innate immunity, and Th1 to Th2, risks… none of that.”2

Pediatrician Larry Palevksy, MD:

When I went through medical school, I was taught that vaccines were completely safe and completely effective, and I had no reason to believe otherwise. All the information that I was taught was pretty standard in all the medical schools and the teachings and scientific literature throughout the country. I had no reason to disbelieve it.

Over the years, I kept practicing medicine and using vaccines and thinking that my approach to vaccines was completely onboard with everything else I was taught. But more and more, I kept seeing that my experience of the world, my experience in using and reading about vaccines, and hearing what parents were saying about vaccines were very different from what I was taught in medical school and my residency training.

… and it became clearer to me as I read the research, listened to more and more parents, and found other practitioners who also shared the same concern that vaccines had not been completely proven safe or even completely effective, based on the literature that we have today.

… It didn’t appear that the scientific studies that we were given were actually appropriately designed to prove and test the safety and efficacy.

It also came to my attention that there were ingredients in there that were not properly tested, that the comparison groups were not appropriately set up, and that conclusions made about vaccine safety and efficacy just did not fit the scientific standards that I was trained to uphold in my medical school training.2

According to Stephanie Christner, DO, whose infant daughter did not survive vaccination:

I never learned in medical school how vaccines were studied, what type of clinical trials they went through, how they evaluated adverse reactions… how they even evaluated effectiveness. So, after Victoria died, I started reading everything that is put out there. Anything that would lead me to a topic, then I would Google that topic… and if there were textbooks in relation to that topic, I would order them and then, based on reading that book, I would order another book. What I have learned has shocked me.1

It is likely that, based on their formal education, all of the health care professionals mentioned above would be considered experts on vaccines. Early in their careers, many of these individuals probably thought of themselves as being well-versed on vaccines. It wasn’t until they began to dig deeper into the history, science and health effects of vaccines and the systems that validate and promote them that they realized the depth of their knowledge gap on the topic.

The 10,000-Hour Rule

In Malcolm Gladwell’s book The Outliers: The Story of Success, the author notes a concept popularly known as the “10,000-hour rule.” Gladwell writes, “Researchers have settled on what they believe is the magic number for true expertise: 10,000 hours.” In reference to a study by Swedish psychologist Anders Ericsson, Gladwell writes, “their research suggests that once a musician has enough ability to get into a top music school, the thing that distinguishes one performer from another is how hard he or she works. That’s it.”3 4 5 6

The idea here is that true expertise in any particular field of study or training requires long-term, consistent and dedicated practice. According to Gladwell, “Ten thousand hours is the magic number of greatness.” Obviously, this is not a hard and fast rule, and it varies depending on the type of activity or discipline and on the abilities of people and how they practice. But it generally seems like a good gauge. Based on Gladwell’s rule, someone who practices a musical instrument or a sport an average of five hours a day six days a week might expect to achieve a high degree of proficiency within six to seven years.3 4 5 6

This measure could also apply to other fields, such as vaccines and vaccination policy (excluding the production and sales sides). In that niche area, there are relatively few people who have reached or surpassed Gladwell’s 10,000-hour milestone. Among these might be health care professionals who discovered that the vaccine paradigm they assumed to be correct contained some glaring holes, inspiring them to invest countless hours re-educating themselves. A good example would be pediatrician and author of The Vaccine Book: Making the Right Decision for Your Child Bob Sears, MD, who admitted that he learned “very little about vaccines, other than the fact that the FDA and pharmaceutical companies do extensive research on vaccines to make sure they are safe and effective” when he attended Georgetown University School of Medicine.2 Dr. Sears noted:

We don’t review the research ourselves. We never learn what goes into making vaccines or how their safety is studied. We trust and take it for granted that the proper researchers are doing their job. So, when patients want a little more information about shots, all we can really say as doctors is that the diseases are bad and the shots are good. But we don’t know enough to answer all of your detailed questions about vaccines, nor do we have the time during a regular health check up to thoroughly discuss and debate the pros and cons of vaccines.2

Another good example of a physician who re-educated herself on vaccines is nephrologist Suzanne Humphries, MD, who authored Dissolving Illusions: Disease, Vaccines, and The Forgotten History and Rising From The Dead. Dr. Humphries said:

Do you know how much doctors learn about vaccines in medical school? When we participate in pediatrics training, we learn that vaccines need to be given on schedule. We learn that smallpox and polio were eliminated by vaccines. We learn that there’s no need to know how to treat diphtheria, because we won’t see it again anyway. We are indoctrinated with the mantra that ‘vaccines are safe and effective’—neither of which is true.

Doctors today are given extensive training on how to talk to ‘hesitant’ parents—how to frighten them by vastly inflating the risks during natural infection. They are trained on the necessity of twisting parents’ arms to conform, or fire them from their practices. Doctors are trained that nothing bad should be said about any vaccine, period.2

Hard to Beat NVIC’s Barbara Loe Fisher

Probably the best example of a person who has educated herself on vaccines and vaccine policy and easily surpassed Gladwell’s 10,000 hours for achieving true expertise is Barbara Loe Fisher, who is co-founder and president of the National Vaccine Information Center (NVIC), organized in April 1982 and organized as a non-profit charity dedicated to preventing vaccine injuries and deaths through public education under the name Dissatisfied Parents Together (DPT) on June 11, 1982. NVIC is the “oldest and largest consumer-led health organization in America providing information about vaccination, diseases and preventing vaccine injuries and deaths. The organization defends the ethical principle of informed consent to medical risk-taking and supports “independent scientific research into vaccine-associated deaths, injuries and chronic illness.”7 8 9

Fisher, who is not a physician or scientist, has been a long-time educator on vaccine safety issues and a human rights activist advocating for informed consent rights with regard to vaccination. She has researched, analyzed and publicly articulated major issues involving the science, policy, law, ethics and politics of vaccination to become one of the world’s leading non-medical, consumer advocacy experts on the subject.

Fisher co-authored the landmark book DPT: A Shot in the Dark in 1985 and authored several other publications, including The Consumer’s Guide to Childhood Vaccines (1997), Vaccines, Autism & Chronic Inflammation: The New Epidemic (2008), The Emerging Risks of Live Virus & Virus Vectored Vaccines: Vaccine StrainVirus Infection, Shedding & Transmission (2014) and Reforming Vaccine Policy & Law: A Guide (2014; 2017; 2022). She worked with the U.S. Congress to secure vaccine safety informing, recording, reporting and research provisions in the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act of 1986. She served as a consumer member of the National Vaccine Advisory Committee (1988-1992); Institute of Medicine Vaccine Safety Forum (1995-1998); FDA Vaccines & Related Biological Products Advisory Committee (1999-2002) and the Vaccine Policy Analysis Collaborative (2002-2005) and the Vaccine Safety Writing Group (2009), sponsored by the U.S. Department of Health & Human Services.8

Fisher founded the print journal newspaper The Vaccine Reaction in 1995 and  re-launched it as a digital weekly publication in 2015, serving as its Executive Editor to this day.8

If you were to add up the number of hours Fisher has dedicated over the past four decades to the cause to which she remains passionately committed, 100,000 hours would be a good ballpark estimate. An average of eight hours a day six days a week over the course of 40 years. It is hard to imagine anyone coming close to that record and that level of expertise.


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Click here to view References:

1 Cáceres M. What Doctors Learn in Medical School About Vaccines. The Vaccine Reaction July 27, 2018.
2 Cáceres M. Doctors Are No Experts on Vaccines. The Vaccine Reaction Nov. 28, 2015.
3 Etheridge C. The Magic Number Of Greatness. Forbes Oct. 24, 2019.
4 Gladwell M. Outliers: The Story of Success. Little, Brown and Company 2008.
5 Goodreads, Inc. Outliers Quotes.
6 Strategies for Influence. Malcolm Gladwell – 10,000-Hour Rule.
7 Leaps.org. Barbara Loe Fisher.
8 National Vaccine Information Center. Barbara Loe Fisher.
9 NVIC. Programs and Services Supported by Donations to NVIC.

11 Responses

  1. “The reality is that most health care professionals have received practically no formal education on vaccines, and certainly not a well-rounded one.”

    *WHO scientist at the December 2019 World Health Organization Vaccine Safety Summit for Lawmakers: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1xey8zlyQo
    This is a 56-minute video condensed from Highwire. Basically, what these “experts” are admitting is that they are clueless when it comes to vaccines. They admit pediatricians are clueless and can’t answer parents’ questions.
    So, the children vaccine schedule is not only based on propaganda and coercion, but also based on HOPE. Hope is not science.

    2:00 Dr. Heidi Larson, PhD, Director of the Vaccine Confidence Project says the biggest factor in vaccine hesitancy is vaccine safety.

    4:26 Dr. Larson says that doctors and nurses are “very wobbly” and “starting to question the safety of vaccines,” and it’s a “huge problem.”

    6:20 Dr. Larson admits doctors don’t have confidence in vaccine safety to stand up mothers asking questions. Doctors only got a “half day of vaccine instruction in medical school.”

    8:06 Dr. Larson admits that the WHO’s issue with social media is not vaccine “misinformation,” but that the information “seeds doubt.”

    10:24 Dr. Larson admits that global health replaced natural immunity with dependence on vaccine-induced immunity on the “assumption that populations would cooperate.” People got the 6 vaccines in the 1960s-1980s, but now it’s a problem. But since they got the world dependent on vaccines, global health has no choice but to continue pushing vaccines.

    13:10 Dr. Larson says there is a lot of safety science needed, they can’t keep repurposing old science that isn’t relevant to the new problem that vaccines are causing.

    16:04 Dr. Marion Gruber, FDA admits that vaccines NEED to have safety monitoring specifically tailored to the one vaccine under consideration. Risk management plans WILL need to take into account all of the safety evidence they have. These safety measures do not exist.

    31:28 Dr. Friede, admits that it’s necessary that we figure out how adjuvants work so they can start to assess how plausible it is that adjuvants are causing the major health concerns.
    (They are injecting adjuvants into people, children and have no idea how they work)

    40:07 CDC ACIP meeting vaccinating pregnant women is “off-label.”

    41:24 The FDA admitted they have no studies about vaccines and pregnancy.

    41:55 Nigerian doctor asks if there are any safety studies on injecting multiple vaccines, from multiple makers, with multiple adjuvants, into a child at once.
    (The DR did not receive 1 answer from this room of “experts” which means this issue has never been studied)

    44:12 ACIP meeting, the CDC admits they have no data on injecting multiple adjuvants at once, but they recommend it anyway, in different limbs.

    45:22 Dr. Robert Chen admits no, they don’t have data on injecting multiple adjuvants at this time, they need to link databases together to “start to answer these types of questions.”

    52:40 Dr. Swaminathan admits, “We really don’t have very good safety monitoring systems in many countries. We can’t give answers about the deaths. We need to put mechanisms in place to monitor what’s going on. With many drugs, we only learn about adverse events after they are introduced to the populations.”
    (4 days before this meeting Dr. Swaminathan made a commercial that stated the exact opposite of what she said in this “expert” meeting.” In the linked video above-go to 56:32 and hear in her own words the LIE she told the world)

  2. April 17, 2022 The Covid-19 “Vaccine”: We are in the Fourth Stage of the DNA War against Humanity. Dr. Lee Merritt

    “Since 2015, I feel like I’ve been witnessing a slow-motion terrorist attack against the whole world and couldn’t stop this. The only reason I was awakened early is because the [AAPS] woke me up to what was happening and the crimes of organized medicine.” (Related: Dr. Lee Merritt warns: Forced vaccines are a Holocaust-level crime against humanity.)

    https://www.globalresearch.ca/dr-lee-merritt-we-fourth-stage-dna-war-against-humanity/5777211

  3. Vaccine manufacturers need to be held responsible for producing harmful vaccines. They receive federal funds to make them. They receive grants to produce them but they’re not held accountable? says:

    The author is very naïve to believe that pediatricians and pharmaceutical reps who sell vaccines know how harmful they are. They hardly ever see the side effects. It’s the ER where are most side effects are discovered by ER physicians but they are more than likely not able to make the connection between the vaccine with the patient’s side effects. Vaccine manufacturers need to be held responsible for producing harmful vaccines. They receive federal funds to make them. They receive grants to produce them but they’re not held accountable?

  4. Actually, “scientists” and “researchers” must be added to the nomenclature of the moder American priesthood.

  5. Quack-cine experts…LMAO. These are big pharma paid thugs who know nuttin’ about nuttin’ except how to lie and market propaganda to the max.

  6. This is an informative article which should be read by those who are not afraid of the truth. Unfortunately, the article is not readily accessible, thanks to the gatekeepers.
    I have all due respect for “experts”, but my respect for erudition is tempered by intuition. (I might add that I have 7 earned letters after my name…)

  7. Yes ‘expert’ is an illusion.
    Try this on for size.

    There is only ONE vaccine.

    Vacca means cow and it was found (serendipitously) that exposure to wild cow pox (vaccinotoxinum) by milk maidens resulted in sufficient immune competence capable of defending against the more deadly small pox.
    This is the only ‘vaccine’ and it’s not an injection.

    There are ‘immunizations’ and ‘inoculations’ that attempt (in varying degrees of success) to perform the same function for other diseases.

    Worst, so-called ‘vaccines’ are wrongly attributed to the reduction of communicable diseases instead of the advent of indoor plumbing and hygiene.

    Almost all ‘vaccines’ were introduced after the disease was near 80-90% reduction. People have been brainwashed, which up until now was a nuisance for the educated, but now it’s leading to self destruction of the species.

    Between the ignorance and arrogance of ‘modern medicine’, the institutions that flail into profit at the expense of lives, and the antibiotic resistance they created (which we should be talking about every day) we need not fear killer asteroids, nukes, or aliens – just our own lethal stupidity.

  8. https://learntherisk.org/vaccines/diseases/ This article goes along with the comment above on when the so-called vaccines were introduced, the disease was more than 95% gone. Other, just disappeared with nothing being introduced to get it under control. As stated, indoor plumbing, food regulations, hygiene (washing of hands & brushing your teeth), etc. Thank a plumber, not a doctor. As they did more than any vaccine.

  9. The schedule is designed to maximize ????????, and $$$$$$.
    Not to maximize immunity or reduce adverse effects.
    The optional age for a average child would be 4 to 10 years.
    It would take fewer ?. To get the same immunity with less damage.

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