There is a common belief that doctors are “experts” on vaccines and vaccination. Almost nothing could be further from the truth. The average medical doctor, for example, may not know the names of the ingredients in vaccines, or what they are and how they interact with each other. The average doctor giving people vaccines may not know how vaccines affect the immune system or the central nervous system or the gut microbiome of the intestinal system, or how the effect of vaccines on one of these systems could, in turn, impact one or both of the others.
Yet, we are conditioned to accept as fact that our family doctors, our pediatricians and obstetricians, and the other specialists we occasionally consult or seek medical care from always know what they’re talking about when it comes to the safety and effectiveness of vaccines. We are taught not to contradict, or even question, doctors about vaccines because it is they, not us, who know best.
We have assumed that doctors receive a great deal of instruction and training in the science of vaccination in medical school, and then even more schooling during their subsequent internships and residencies. After all, if you’re going to be acknowledged as an expert in something, you need to have much more than just a passing introduction to a subject, or one or two courses in it or something related to it.
You would think that for doctors to be considered vaccine experts, they would have taken vaccinology courses during medical school and know a lot about how affect immune and brain function, including what science does and does not know about vaccine ingredients and the biological factors that increase the side effects of vaccines. But that does not appear to be the case.
More than likely, information on vaccinology in medical and nursing schools is not concentrated within specialized courses focusing on vaccine science. What medical students learn appears to be dispersed within other courses in specialized curriculums such as immunology, infectious diseases, pediatrics, pharmacology, pharmacovigilance and public health.1
There is no question that the topic of vaccines comes up occasionally in medical school. However, because the science used to make vaccine policy is assumed to be proven, and thus not up for question or debate, it does not seem to merit an entire course devoted to it, much less an exhaustive curriculum that provides new doctors with a solid knowledge base they can rely upon when recommending vaccines. So what exactly do doctors learn in medical school with regard to vaccines and vaccination?
Larry Palevksy, MD is a board-certified pediatrician. He received his medical degree from the New York University School of Medicine in New York City.2 Here’s what Dr. Palevsky has to say about his training in vaccines…
When I went through medical school, I was taught that vaccines were completely safe and completely effective, and I had no reason to believe otherwise. All the information that I was taught was pretty standard in all the medical schools and the teachings and scientific literature throughout the country. I had no reason to disbelieve it.
Over the years, I kept practicing medicine and using vaccines and thinking that my approach to vaccines was completely onboard with everything else I was taught. But more and more, I kept seeing that my experience of the world, my experience in using and reading about vaccines, and hearing what parents were saying about vaccines were very different from what I was taught in medical school and my residency training.
… and it became clearer to me as I read the research, listened to more and more parents, and found other practitioners who also shared the same concern that vaccines had not been completely proven safe or even completely effective, based on the literature that we have today.
… It didn’t appear that the scientific studies that we were given were actually appropriately designed to prove and test the safety and efficacy.
It also came to my attention that there were ingredients in there that were not properly tested, that the comparison groups were not appropriately set up, and that conclusions made about vaccine safety and efficacy just did not fit the scientific standards that I was trained to uphold in my medical school training.2
Note Dr. Palevsky’s comment, “All the information that I was taught was pretty standard in all the medical schools and the teachings and scientific literature throughout the country.” So it’s not like Dr. Palevsky’s experience was unique. And it’s not like Dr. Palevsky attended a little known medical school without a good reputation. In 2015, NYU Medical School was ranked 14th among the top medical schools (research) in the United States.3
Suzanne Humphries, MD, board-certified in nephrology and family medicine,4 echoes Dr. Palevsky’s experience medical school:
Do you know how much doctors learn about vaccines in medical school? When we participate in pediatrics training, we learn that vaccines need to be given on schedule. We learn that smallpox and polio were eliminated by vaccines. We learn that there’s no need to know how to treat diphtheria, because we won’t see it again anyway. We are indoctrinated with the mantra that ‘vaccines are safe and effective’—neither of which is true.
Doctors today are given extensive training on how to talk to ‘hesitant’ parents—how to frighten them by vastly inflating the risks during natural infection. They are trained on the necessity of twisting parents’ arms to conform, or fire them from their practices. Doctors are trained that nothing bad should be said about any vaccine, period.5
Dr. Humphries received her medical degree from Temple University School of Medicine4 in Philadelphia, PA. But almost everything she has learned about vaccines has come from her own independent study and research. She co-authored the book Dissolving Illusions: Disease, Vaccines, and The Forgotten History, published in 2013.6
Then there’s Bob Sears, MD, another board-certified pediatrician who also had to largely educate himself about vaccine science. He received his medical degree from the Georgetown University School of Medicine in Washington, DC and authored the book The Vaccine Book: Making the Right Decision for Your Child, published in 2011.7 According to Dr. Sears:
Doctors, myself included, learn a lot about diseases in medical school, but we learn very little about vaccines, other than the fact that the FDA and pharmaceutical companies do extensive research on vaccines to make sure they are safe and effective. We don’t review the research ourselves. We never learn what goes into making vaccines or how their safety is studied. We trust and take it for granted that the proper researchers are doing their job. So, when patients want a little more information about shots, all we can really say as doctors is that the diseases are bad and the shots are good. But we don’t know enough to answer all of your detailed questions about vaccines, nor do we have the time during a regular health check up to thoroughly discuss and debate the pros and cons of vaccines.8
To give you an idea of what a four-year curriculum at a medical school in the U.S. might look like, let’s take the example of the University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center in Dallas, TX. The first year would include Anatomy, Biochemistry, Cell Biology, Embryology, Genetics, Human Behavior, Immunology, Neuroscience, and Physiology.9 No course on Vaccinology.
If you look at the descriptions for these courses online and do a word search for “vaccines” or “vaccination,” you get one hit, and that’s under Immunology. It reads:
Finally, medically relevant forms of immune dysregulation and intervention are explored, including vaccines, immunomodulators, hypersensitivities, immunodeficiencies, autoimmunity, graft-versus-host disease, transplantation immunology, and tumor immunology.6
That’s it. If you go to the online descriptions for the courses listed for the second, third and fourth years,10 11 12 you will see no further mention of the word “vaccine” or “vaccination.” The second year curriculum lists Clinical Medicine, Microbiology, Pathology, Pharmacology, and Advanced Cardiac Life Support. No Vaccinology. The third year lists Family Medicine, Internal Medicine, Neurology, Obstetrics and Gynecology, Pediatrics, Inpatient Services, Outpatient Rotation, Psychiatry, and Surgery. No Vaccinology. The fourth year lists Acute Care, Ambulatory Care, and Medicine Sub-Internship. Nothing on Vaccinology.
Notice also that there was no specific course in Toxicology, although the topic could be covered within a Pharmacology course. You would think that courses on toxicology (particularly as its relates to vaccines) would be stressed, given the importance of understanding the ingredients contained in vaccines, and the way they interact with each other. Absent this knowledge, medical students might not fully comprehend the concept of synergistic toxicity—”the effect that when exposed to two toxins, the toxicity level is far greater than the additive toxicity levels of the two toxins.”13
Biochemist Boyd Haley, PhD, a former professor in the College of Pharmacy and Chair of the Department of Chemistry of the University of Kentucky Medical Center in Lexington, has expressed dismay at the lack of instruction in toxicology doctors are given in medical school. He says…
I can tell you, having been in a medical center, having taught biochemistry to medical students, and talking to hundreds of medical doctors, they get very little training in toxicology… I mean, no courses that are specifically designed, such as a PhD student in toxicology would have, or a PhD student in biochemistry. They don’t understand it at all. They are not trained to evaluate the toxic effects of chemicals, especially at the research level. One, they don’t do research programs, they don’t have the insight that’s developed and required for someone writing a PhD thesis in toxicology or biochemistry of materials that inhibit enzymes. They just don’t understand the science and the chemistry at that level. And certainly pediatricians don’t.14
So we know that medical students get little or no exposure to vaccine science in school. We know that if they don’t happen to pick up a book such as Dr. Sears’ The Vaccine Book and read it carefully, medical students graduate with a knowledge about vaccines that is virtually non-existent.
But what about afterward, when they start actually working as doctors treating patients and giving vaccines in the real world? Don’t they get some sort of intense training in vaccinology on the job? According to Toni Bark, MD, a pediatrician with a medical degree from Rush Medical College in Chicago, IL, the answer is “No.”
“It’s not that I knew much about vaccines,” said Dr. Bark. “I did a pediatric residency and you don’t really learn anything. You’re taught the schedule, that’s really what you’re taught about vaccines. You’re taught the schedule and that it produces antibodies and that’s it. You don’t get any information on innate immunity, and Th1 to Th2, risks… none of that.”15
There you go. Another myth, debunked by doctors themselves—medical doctors trained in and scientists teaching in some of the best medical schools in the country. Most doctors are not experts on vaccines. They never have been. Not even close.
1 Vaccinology courses: filling a medical education gap. Vaccines Today Feb. 11, 2014.
2 Mercola JM. Vaccination: The Neurological Poison So Common Your Doctor Probably Pushes It. Mercola.com Apr. 11, 2012.
3 Best Medical Schools: Research. U.S. News & World Report 2015.
4 Suzanne Humphries, MD. Professional Website, About (Curriculum Vitae).
5 Humphries S. Smoke, Mirrors, and the “Disappearance” Of Polio. International Medical Council On Vaccination Nov. 17, 2011.
6 Humphries S, Bystrianyk R. Dissolving Illusions: Disease, Vaccines, and The Forgotten History. July 27, 2013.
7 Sears RW. The Vaccine Book: Making the Right Decision for Your Child. Oct. 26, 2011.
8 Sears RW. Ask Dr. Sears, Inside the Vaccine Book.
9 University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center. Medical School, Curriculum: Year One.
10 University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center. Medical School, Curriculum: Year Two.
11 University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center. Medical School, Curriculum: Year Three.
12 University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center. Medical School, Curriculum: Year Four.
13 SafeMinds. Synergistic Toxicity.
14 Vaccines Are Not Safe. YouTube.com Mar. 13, 2014 (published by 999solomon999).
15 Toni Bark. YouTube.com Oct. 29, 2014 (published by Anne Dachel).
Doctors Are No Experts on Vaccines:
Great post. Many of the imperious vaccine pushing physicians (i.e. medical tyrants), “believe” they’re vaccine experts and know everything there is to know about vaccine science. But yet these same doctors will quickly criticize any of their peers who question vaccine science as not being qualified nor having the appropriate background in vaccine science. Talk about hypocrits!
You can the see the CDC operative and proganda machine in full force here. Convince the tyrannical vaccine pushing doctors that they’re now “vaccine experts” while persecuting the doctors who question vaccines as being unqualified to have such an opinion.
Too bad those mind controlled doctors can’t fiqure out that most of those vaccine studies are industry-funded. And they probably ignore the fact that industry-funded studies report a positive outcome 85% of the time (imagine that).
Official vaccine studies: the grand Illusion of mind controlled doctors. ?
Thank you for speaking the truth! Thank you for publishing this article! Thank you to the doctors speaking out the truth! Thank you to anyone who suffers for defending the truth and protecting the patients’ right to informed!!!!!! Consent!!!!! I am a RN of many years. As medical personnel or we take oaths to “do NO HARM”!!!!! We cannot not stand up to this tyranny just because we may loose our jobs or our lives….we must continue to shout the truth out!!!!! Many fellow medical personnel or do not want to believe that they are actually harming people instead of helping people!!!! Even when confronted with the truth they refuse to believe…I don’t want to ever not be an advocate and defender for my patients!!!!!
Belief in the benefits of vaccination is like a religion. Just as you’ll never convince a faithful Christian, Jew or Muslim that God does not exist, nor will you ever be able to convince most physicians that vaccines are dangerous. If you could, they would have to admit they have violated their oath to do no harm, something which would so disrupt their sense of self worth, that it could never happen.
or maybe it’s because they’re the ones with the medical background, and you’re not? just a thought.
Did you even READ this article???
Vaccinations save lives. If you decide not to vancacite, make sure you take your child into the doctor for every FEVER or RASH; for they can be the first signs? that your child will die in a few hours. Unfortunately, your family will then be exposed to new infections while waiting in the doctors office or the emergency room. What a dilemma. Don’t be be stupid. Vaccinate.
Vaccinations save lives? Bullshit. I believe in the miracle of the discovery of antibiotics, but vaccinations have been injuring people ever since someone came up with this asinine idea over one hundred years ago.
Do your homework. Improved sanitation, cleanliness, and plumbing saved lives, not vaccination.
What an absolutely ridiculous statement.
It’s surprising what doctors don’t know about vaccines!
Patient warfare: Shock and Awe.
Doctor, angrily; (shock) You are doubting my training and “expertise” on this issue and that is offensive! i’m the “expert” and you aren’t, that’s why i’m your _____ and you come to me to get healthy, so when i tell you that vaccines are proven to be safe and effective – that’s the reality!!!!
PERCEIVED reality. They know so little about vaccines that they don’t generally even know that they don’t know.
Suggestion for those who’ve been training theirselves in this subject matter – ask them about say, “Original Antigenic Sin” and see if they know about how the flu shot “trains” the body to make antigens specific to that vaccine – but if ANY OTHER flu strain hits – your body FIGHTS THE LAST WAR, and instead of devoting your immune system energy/capacity toward fighting the actual threat is replicates the older, useless antigen instead.
Ask if they know about the difference between cell mediated vs Humoral “immunity” and see if they get it right. See if they know the antigen response is about 2% of the immune system and that the largest portion of the immune system is the probiotics in the intestinal tract, and that the FIRST line of immune defense is the mucosal membranes.
Find out if they know that we (within about 2 years) have recently learned that there is a “lymphatic system” in the brain, which connects to the rest of the body – and NO CLUE as to the immune impacts of muscular injection that toxic vaccinations will cause to the brain from this previously unknown, and presently IGNORED system will have upon your vaccination reactions.
Ask if they know that Polysorbate 80 crosses the blood brain barrier and carries other toxic adjuvants WITH it across that barrier…..
In other words – be more educated than they are, AND DEMAND THE VACCINE INSERT – THEN READ IT BEFORE AGREEING TO THE SHOT, OR TURNING IT DOWN.
If the MD becomes aggressive – then tell them you aren’t being given time to digest the insert information and will contact them later to tell them your choice. Be, or pretend to be, ambiguous – and take the vax insert with you or look it up again online.
I had recently authored a similar article when I just found this article today. I have 2 doctorate degrees in medicine and we never had a single course nor a single class nor a single lecture on vaccines, vaccine ingredients, or adverse effects. I graduated from one of the best medical schools in the USA, where I was an Honor Student in the top 10% of my class, and I scored in the top 1% and top 5% of the medical licensing exams while in medical school — I never had a single question about vaccination pharmacology. In residency training, our training was horrible in general, and the only thing said about vaccines is –basically– give them to everyone, and if anyone resists, overpower them with intimidation or otherwise state that they are noncompliant and are acting “AMA”, against medical advice.
I don’t understand how you people actually think doctors know nothing about the vaccines (i.e. medicines) they give, when they literally take entire courses about these things, and pharmacology courses. THIS IS WHY THEY ARE ALLOWED TO WRITE PERSCRIPTIONS, ADMINSITERS VACCINES, AND IMMUNIZATIONS! Like, what do yall think med students do in school? Just sit around and play tic-tac-toe all day? Christ! Also, why exactly are we trsuting these “doctors” who don’t even trust what they’ve learned?
My cherried-picked Osteopathic doctor was bent out of shape when I brought one of my children it for masseter injury.She wasn’t happy when I told her no more flu shots for my family since we had very bad experiences such as feeling the aluminum trying to break the blood-brain-barrier. She began to draw sketch trying to show me how virus walks through back door!(Laughing yet?) I stood-up, took off my glasses and said,” look me in the eye-Tell me that vaccines are 100% safe with no *toxic adjuvants*sign a statement holding you responsible if any problems should arrive’She was very uncomfortable to say the least. I found this Osteopathic practice by accident one day I was sitting on a bench at my neighborhood park and at my right big toe was the business card for this well-known osteopathic University Doctors. Finally, this doctor forgot that the first time we me she told me that she DOES NOT GIVE HER CHILDREN THE FLU SHOT! This is one of the reason that I am in nursing school and have spent over 25 years in healthcare following leading open-minded physicians such as Dr. Joel Wallach, Dr. Axe, NVIC, Ty Bollinger, Chris WARK and other parents who are advocating for our children’s and family best interest. Socrates would consider me wise and Bob Marley(fellow Jamaican) said, “Don’t Let them Fool you!””They Can Fool Some People Sometimes, But They Can’t Fool All of the People All of The Time. Hon. Robert Nesta Marley!
I tried to find out if doctors are trained in how to identify and report vaccine injury because often times I would see them brush off vaccine injury as paranoia or as that the parent was imagining things. By the time they realized something was wrong the child would be chronically ill. Then they blamed it on genetics. Research has shown genetics contributes very little to chronic illness.
I have doctors attack me quite often for my stance against vaccines. When i ask them how much training they have in identifying vaccine injury and reporting it. Or I ask them how much they make from administering vaccines, I ask them if they know the ingredients of vaccines and the side effects. I ask them why most of these diseases had almost been eradicated before vaccines so what caused them to start occurring in epidemics? Shouldn’t vaccines have prevented that if they work? If so why did the diseases reemerge and have been becoming more virulent? I ask them if vaccines work then why are the vaccinated afraid of the non vaccinated? Why is it that the vaccinated contract the diseases they are supposed to be vaccinated against more often then the non vaccinated? Why do studies show the vaccinated are hospitalized more then the non vaccinated? Why is it that vaccines kill more then the actual diseases they claim to vaccinate against yet they claim it is protecting them.
I ask doctors I visit those questions also when the ask me to get a vaccination. They don’t even argue with me. They put a big sticker on my folder that says to not ask to vaccinate.