Monday, July 15, 2024


“You may choose to look the other way, but you can never say again that you did not know.”

— William Wilberforce


Intelligent People Who are Stupid About Vaccines?

“The more highly skilled and educated populations are clearly questioning vaccinations.” That statement was recently made by Lorraine Baker, MD, president of AMA Victoria—a medical trade association representing doctors in Australia’s southeastern state of Victoria.1  It is not an unusual statement to make when referring to people who veer from mainstream vaccine science orthodoxy—either a little bit or a lot.

In a study published last year in the journal EBioMedicine seeking to gauge the level of confidence in the necessity, safety and effectiveness of vaccines in 67 countries, investigators found that people holding Masters or PhD degrees were “not associated with more positive views on vaccine importance and effectiveness.” People with “no education” had more positive views about vaccination.2  

The fact that people, who are educated, trained in critical thinking, and financially solvent, are choosing to do their own research and make independent decisions about vaccination is commonly recognized in the evolving debate on the safety and effectiveness of vaccines and the ethics of mandatory vaccination policies. You can see this theme in numerous media articles with headlines that read:

  • “Anti-Vaccination Parents Richer, Better Educated”3  
  • “Immunizations: More Education May Not Mean More Vaccination”4  
  • “More Educated Parents Less Likely To Vaccinate and Feed Children Sugar and GMO Foods”5  
  • “New Study Says Vaccine Deniers Are Richer, Whiter, and More Educated”6  
  • “Rich, educated and stupid parents are driving the vaccination crisis”7  
  • “Why Do Affluent, Well-Educated People Refuse Vaccines?”8  
  • “Why Some Rich, Educated Parents Avoid Vaccines”9  

Of course, this recognition by mandatory vaccination apologists of the high education level and earning power of vaccine dissenters is, curiously, often delivered  as an insult. Beneath the insult lies a subliminal question: “If you are so smart, then how can you be so stupid and disagree with us about vaccination?” It’s a great question.

However, it assumes that the science supporting  the belief that vaccines are safe and effective is rock solid—that those who disagree with the majority view about vaccination are wrong. It assumes that vaccine science “is settled” and cannot or should not be revisited or revised. Both assumptions are entirely up for debate.

Oddly, it is many of those within the mainstream medical and public health communities who adamantly believe they are right on the issue of vaccine science who tend to shy away from looking beyond mandatory vaccination policy and openly debating the continually evolving science. Their preference is to simply shut the door on any contrarian talk by anyone who challenges any piece of the mainstream vaccine paradigm. One must either accept the paradigm in its entirety or risk being labeled a heretic and a danger to the public health, deserving of being punished and banished from civilized society.

Perhaps the best example of this mentality is the view by Paul Offit, MD that it is “not important to have a debate about the science with someone who clearly doesn’t know the science.” Dr. Offit doesn’t think it is “fair to have a debate with two sides when only one side is represented by the science.”10  

The problem is that Dr. Offit’s thought process doesn’t completely square with his own admission that a large portion of those of whom he so dismissive are “upper middle class residents who are college educated, often graduate school educated.” After all, is science really that difficult for intelligent, literate people with curious minds to grasp? There’s a cognitive dissonance to this.10  

As Barbara Cáceres wrote in a 2015 opinion piece for The Vaccine Reaction:

Make friends with cognitive dissonance so when you meet it you will recognize it and see it for what it is. Trust yourself. Listen to your gut. Pay attention when something doesn’t seem right.11  

At a deep gut level, something definitely feels wrong with the Offit logic.

Dr. Offit is unwilling to accept even the remotest possibility that these millions of smart, well-educated, and financially stable people—those who have succeeded in the American system of education—may be right and that he and others who agree with him may be partially or entirely wrong. It is this kind of arrogance and closed mindedness that leads to the kind cruel bullying that many parents are experiencing from their pediatricians every day when it comes to vaccination of children. As Barbara Loe Fisher of the National Vaccine Information Center (NVIC) has correctly noted:

… mothers, who know their children best, are being bullied, ridiculed and punished if they use their intellect and listen their gut instincts and refuse to violate their conscience when caring for their children.12  

It would be one thing if medical doctors like Dr. Offit were “experts” on the complex and wide range of issues involving vaccines, their history, their short- and long-term impacts on the human body and brain, and the ethics of mandatory vaccination laws. They are not.13 14 15 

There seems to be no end in sight to the nonsensical belittlement of educated, successful Americans by doctors like Offit. Perhaps it’s simply a sign that doctors and other health care professionals are becoming more aware and concerned that what they’re preaching about vaccines is no longer being taken as gospel by a growing number of parents. As Fisher noted in a recent commentary titled “Class and Race Profiling in the Vaccine Culture War:

They know that more than 90 percent of American parents are asking pediatricians questions about vaccine safety and want to make voluntary vaccine decisions for their children.16  

How is it that intelligent, inquiring parents such as these should be seen as anything other than thoughtful, responsible and deserving of respect?


1 Butt C, Spooner R. Melbourne vaccination data: immunisation rates not improving in wealthy inner-city suburbs. The Age June 8, 2017.
2 Larson HJ, Figueiredo A, Xiahong Z, Schulz WS, Verger P, Johnston IG, Cook AR, Jones NS. The State of Vaccine Confidence 2016: Global Insights Through a 67-Country SurveyEBioMedicine 2016 Oct; 12: 295–301.
3 Radford B. Anti-Vaccination Parents Richer, Better Educated. Seeker Dec. 31, 2015.
4 Bakalar M. Immunizations: More Education May Not Mean More Vaccination. The New York Times Jan. 16, 2007.
5 Mihalovic D. More Educated Parents Less Likely To Vaccinate and Feed Children Sugar and GMO Foods. Health Impact News Feb. 17, 2016.
6 Mehta H. New Study Says Vaccine Deniers Are Richer, Whiter, and More Educated. Patheos Dec. 28, 2015.
7 Hiltzik M. Rich, educated and stupid parents are driving the vaccination crisis. Los Angeles Times Sept. 3, 2014.
8 Moser W. Why Do Affluent, Well-Educated People Refuse Vaccines? Chicago Mar. 26, 2014.
9 Lallanilla M. Why Some Rich, Educated Parents Avoid Vaccines. Live Science Feb. 21, 2014.
10 Cáceres M. Dr. Offit Quotes: Top 10 List. The Vaccine Reaction Mar. 26, 2017.
11 Cáceres B. Awakening to the Culture of Cognitive Dissonance. The Vaccine Reaction Oct. 26, 2015.
12 Fisher BL. The Vaccine Revolution for Truth. NVIC Newsletter May 19, 2017.
13 Cáceres M. “Consult Your Doctor” on Vaccines?. The Vaccine Reaction May 15, 2016.
14 Cáceres M. Doctors Are No Experts on Vaccines. The Vaccine Reaction Nov. 28, 2015.
15 Cáceres M. Many Doctors Vaccinate Out of Fear. The Vaccine Reaction May 23, 2016.
16 Fisher BL. Class and Race Profiling in the Vaccine Culture War. NVIC Newsletter July 17, 2017.

49 Responses

    1. MENSA member and did not vote for continued Clinton corruption
      nor another Bush for that matter, also will not accept contaminated vaccines or drink glyphosate water. PhD’s are so often in love with themselves! Lawyers and politicians are a Scarymuchi bunch! They NEED to be vaccinated.

    2. As was their right. Just because they do not agree with you, it does not make them wrong. Or are you one of those who believes that anyone who does not agree with you must be less intelligent? If so, that, in itself, is a sign of stupidity….

    3. So what was wrong with voting for Trump? Did you actually find Clinton to be less loathsome than Trump?. Already Trump has placed a conservative and pro gun justice on the Supreme Court. Step two is repeal and not necessarily replace the Affordable Care Act. It is decimating my mostly poor community and is certainly not doing any favors for my practice. I will take a little media foolishness from Trump over the years of corruption represented by Clinton and the same old Arkansas / Chicago machine. Eventually people like you might actually open your eyes and realize that at least 50% of the population does not want your liberal (aka communist) political agenda rammed down our throats.

    1. A lot of rich educated and uneducated people voted for the psychopath, Clinton. Education and common sense are worlds apart.

    2. Your comment, doctor, is a PERFECT example of what was written about in the article. You can’t debate the issue, so you choose to change the subject and politicize it to support your own agenda. Leave the partisan politics out of it. Vaccine injury has no preference as to whether you are on the right or the left.

    3. Aaaaand there it is folks. Your token troll throwing”Trump supporters” into the mix just to try and take your eye off the ball.

    4. AND? I questioned the vaccines 35 years ago with my first child, and my worries only increased with each child. I never let my child be vaccinated with more than one vaccine at a time, because I had lots of allergies and I wanted to make sure if my child had a reaction I would know exactly which one it was…. Now people who are like me and take precautions for their child are yelled at by doctors and told they can’t be treated by their practices, called crazy and so many other things…. Are you saying because we voted for Trump, and not a person who never held a job yet has 3 large homes, and whose wife is under investigation for stealing money from college students and their university, or a women who while fresh out of law school worked on the watergate trial but was fired because she lied( and her boss regrets not having her law lisence at the very least suspended). And then as Secretary of State allowed 4 human beings to die when our military who trains for these situations and were waiting on the word to go but had to sit and watch this women blame it on a film and allowed a man to go to jail on yet another lie, and so many more lies and lawlessness in between, that we are some how not sane, or not worthy of being listened to. Explain if this is not what you meant.

    5. Interesting tactic…deflect and change the subject to politics. Not comfortable discussing the science of vaccine effectiveness and safety?

  1. Thank you Peter Asher. I found “Lorenzo’s Oil” with the Dogpile Search Engine.
    Cool, Nick Nolte – I’m off to watch it NOW.

  2. I think that most of the mainstream media and most doctors that are promoting vaccination do not actually believe what they are saying. This explains their failure to debate and address the crisis in our health. They know, or should, that vaccination is devastating the population and that continued adherence to this insane “CDC schedule” is, at this point, doing vastly more harm than good. Should this veneer fall entirely away there will be a huge reckoning coming for those who have knowingly harmed millions of people by approving dangerous vaccines, selling and imposing “mandates”. According to a recent story in the St. Louis Post Dispatch, Nico LaHood (Bexar County, TX District Attorney and father of a vaccine-injured child) is prosecuting a nurse who, it is believed, injected children with drugs in order to demonstrate the need for a new hospital unit. She may have killed 60 young children. Her crimes are apparently decades old, yet he persists in investigating lest this apparent child-killer be released from prison. I am sure that this intelligent citizen, public servant and father cannot help but see that the many “SIDs” deaths following vaccination are part and parcel of the same distorted, criminal mentality that looks at our children, pregnant mothers and babies as an opportunity for profit. The upper echelons of this criminal regime will easily “sacrifice” the low level underlings doing their bidding by injecting the innocent at every “well-baby” visit. “Doctors” and “nurses” beware. When this is exposed you will find you are just as disposable as those you thought you could inject to keep your “jobs”.

    1. Alexis, a more practical approach is necessary for broader dissemination of the message. The story of rampant exponential growth of the vaccine market and the ensuing calamities with lobbyist based legislation to force such vaccines upon us, is a modern but common story of greed and corruption. The pharmaceutical profit machine is moving on it’s own by now, and only a free market force of united consumers can stop it. When collegiate institutions both public and private either subsidizes or completely funds the entire science and health departments from pharmaceutical donations and research grants, and will readily with hold all funds if anyone speaks out against their products, well those are just a few of the gears in this machine. We’d never have been to this point now, if these corporations first did not demonize herbal medicines, organic foods and regulate free market competition away. “They want you sick, in order to harvest the profits from your diseases.” It’s not a coincidence that medical authorities have been forced to reveal their biased intentions with mandates such as doctors prescribing organic foods and detox diets can now be considered malpractice. The key to moving someone down the line from health ailments to eventual cleansing and voluntary choice to not vaccinate, I believe starts with food. By promoting better awareness of toxins in foods, people naturally pay more attention to other possible sources of toxicity and their bodies. What’s the point of being an anti vaxxer if you’re slurming down pepsi and chow hogging gmo doritos all day? I wonder how many people on this board have dared to change their family diets as well, promoting new understanding and new leadership among their peers. Lead by example, total body health means total awareness of toxic elements. We have the right to choose a chemical free house and body, and neither the big pharma nor big chemical companies are in control of our consumer decisions.

      1. Yes, so true. An awareness of all the exposure will help people pay attention to what is actually in vaccines and why it should never be injected into a human being, especially a child.

  3. I truly believe that most vaccines are necessary and relatively safe.
    However, flu vaccines, which are mandatory once a year, may be very unsafe.
    Just imagine our immunological system being stimulated intensively every year for many many years. It can easily switch and start producing antibodies against our own body. Thus, leading to autoimmune Diseases.

    I should have the right to REFUSE flu vaccines without losing my job.
    It may take 20 years for all the smart people involved have enough evidence to prove that this idea is wrong or right.

    1. We should have the right to refuse any vaccine, it’s our bodies and our children period. It’s all a fraud & the propaganda continues. My son was injured by his one year vaccines and is now eight. It has been a literal nightmare.

      On that day I should have listened to my gut, my mommy instict something was telling me no. I let myslef be talked into the some five dif viruses given to my son and that’s the day I lost my healthy growing child.

      Saddest thing is our gov allows this. After reading through 7 years of the Vaccine Death & Injury reports I realized my child like many others took one for the team.

      I am educated and mad as hell but have little time to do much about it since my now special needs chid is like a full time job. Food for thought:(

      1. I am a veterinarian with 50 years of practice experience. Overvaccination of pets has produced a lot of controversy in the veterinary community. While some vaccinations are necessary I feel that they need to be tailored to the patients life style and individual needs. Any disease that is life threatening such as rabies or tetanus is warranted. Things like flu that can be treated in the majority of cases probably are not necessary. I needed a tetanus booster from my physician and her nurse practitioner who apparently had a very poor background in immunology insisted that I needed a combination vaccine plus the flu. When I refused and threatened to leave she finally “found” a single dose of tetanus toxoid that I thought was warranted. Forced vaccinations are being promoted to health care personnel that have little to no real knowledge of what is really needed.

        1. Rabies and tetanus are both curable with homeopathy. Juliette de Bairacli Levy both prevented and cured rabies and many other deadly conditions using fasting, herbs and a natural diet. She was NEVER able to cure vaccinated animals. That tells me how great these poisons destroy the immune system.

          My family has owned cats, dogs, horses, birds, hamsters, guinea pigs and rabbits for over 60 years. There is NO vaccine that is necessary, safe or harmless. You’ve been brainwashed by your pharma education. There is NO study proving vaccine safety either.

          1. Correction – She was NEVER able to cure rabies in vaccinated animals.

            I strongly recommend reading her wonderful books.

    2. Well, I would beg to differ that all vaccines are relatively safe and effective, that’s the mantra, and it’s a lie.

      Both my children had reactions to different vaccines and never had flu shots. Every single vaccine hasn’t been tested for carcinogenic, mutagenic, or its effect on fertility. We have the worst fertility rate in the world and we also have the highest death rate of infants on day one in the civilized world. We also are the ONLY country to give babies the Hep B vaccine within minutes of Life, and don’t forget the vitamin K shot that has a BLACK BOX WARNING (meaning possibility of death). Our children, in the USA, with the “best healthcare”, are the sickest they have EVER BEEN. 54% have a chronic condition/illness compared to 8% before vaccine makers became IMMUNE TO LIABILITY in 1986…they have increased the vaccine schedule exponentially since and currently have over 200 vaccines in the pipeline. And vaccines are becoming mandated slowly…can’t avoid the FLU and HPV. Soon adults will be mandated too unless we FIGHT! Stand up for your rights!!! Call your Congress people and make them listen.

  4. Sadly, there is a built-in, or perhaps brainwashed-in fallacy in the medical industry. They are the gods, we are the mere serfs who should “trust our doctor” and when and if we do not toe the line and do so, we will be ridiculed, punished, perhaps even have our children removed from us as unfit parents. The professional arrogance from doctors like Paul Offit are an affront to genuine healers in the medical profession – and yet, they are allowed to remain the most visible representatives. Which is reprehensible.

    1. They are allowed to stay in place because we as the consumers have not effectively pushed back in great enough numbers with effective tools like boycotts and promotion of counter argument media material like seen here in this website. I’m much more comfortable spending a fortune on safer organic foods than I am spending anything on illusionary medical treatments like vaccinations. We resist vaccinations because the producers are seeking to restrict personal liberty through legislated mandated vaccination. It’s an ethical decision at the heart of the argument, and that will remain regardless of any new science. My body, my choice. If you’re still watching mainstream news and television where the pharmaceutical companies control content and occupy the new typical amount of 10% total advertising time, you’re part of the problem. A true dystopian nightmare; They’re advertising something they disclose may kill you, during your family evening tv time. The majority of medical product solicitations on television may as well say; “Don’t forget your poison!” If they can advertise symbalta, Marlboro should be able to advertise a cigarette. These companies have bought out media outlets in order to have this control through a broad but limited connection of power brokers. What can I say Cindy, except vote with your wallet, vote with your time. The infowar continues. Still waiting for an NVIC vaccine reaction newsletter in printed form so I can subscribe, and subscribe on behalf of others. Imagine these articles being read by patients and doctors alike who happened to glance at the new medical mag. Our voices have power, continue to spread the message. We are a valid and substantial force in the free market system, don’t let anyone tell you otherwise.

      1. Excellent idea, Colorado. Seed the world with so much PAPER with the TRUTH printed on it. DELUGE THE U.S. with the printed TRUTH! Recycled paper can be used.
        In South Korea, the send up balloons with the Word of God on it. when it opens up it has the entire Gospel of Mark.
        The people get high up and send the balloons in the prevailing winds toward North Korea. People find it, read it and tune into jammed radio frequencies to hear the Word of God being whispered into little basements and hide away’s in North Korea, for the Salvation of the Son of God. The god of this world, Satan have those who serve him, and I feel deeply the the Lord God Almighty, Creator of the Heavens and the Earth, is welling up in the Holy Spirit with all the truth movements out there teaching the unbiased truth about the LIES the god of this world has woven in this country. Destroying the largest Christian Nation (although you wouldn’t know it by the way some people act) IN THE WORLD, IS ON SATAN’S AGENDA BEFORE THE END. IT IS TRUE THAT WE ARE AT WAR WITH EVIL, AND IF WE ARE NOT PART OF THE SOLUTION, WE ARE PART OF THE PROBLEM!
        I thank God everyday for the evil that is being exposed through, Dr. Tom O’Brian’s BETRAYED, Dr. Izabella Wenze’s The Thyroid Secret, Ty Bollinger’s “The Truth about Vaccines”, Dr. Patrick Gentempo’s, “Vaccines Revealed”. The Movie Vaxxed, Trace Amounts, Vaccine Syndrome, Robert F. Kennedy Jr’s World Mercury Project, and of course the ever fantastic Warrior, Barbara Loe Fisher, Vaccine Reactions and all the fantastic staff of writers there who are NOT GOING AWAY! WE WILL BE HERE UNTIL WE AFFECT CHANGE.

  5. When the “bottom line” (big pharma) and the agenda (globalism, NWO) become more important than human life, this is what we get: control freaks who “can’t be challenged” by reasonable questions or uncertainties.

  6. There is so much science and doctors do not know. X-Rays used to be much more common, with little precaution taken. I remember machines in stores in the 1950s where x-rays were taken of your feet to determine show size!

    Vitamin D used to used in prescriptions (actually D2). But few doctors know that D3 is tons more effective (some say 500 to 1). And that the following diseases are linked with Vitamin D deficiency: Autism, obesity, Rheumatoid arthritis, Diabetes 1 and 2, Inflammatory Bowel Disease, Tuberculosis, Septicemia, signs of aging, Dementia, Eczema & Psoriasis, Insomnia, hearing loss, Osteoporosis, muscle pain, cavities, Periodontal Disease, Macular Degeneration, Reduced C-section risk, Pre-eclamsia, seizures, infertility, Asthma, Cystic Fibrosis, Migraines, Depession, Alzheimer’s Disease, Schizophrenia. Inflammation, injury and stress depletes your Vitamin D, which is needed to be restored daily.

  7. Vaccines containing aluminum,mercury,and aborted fetus parts are an abomination and the major cause of the Autism Explosion destroying our Country’s future! It must be stopped!

  8. A Quote from Michael Criton:
    “I want to pause here and talk about this notion of consensus, and the rise of what has been called consensus science. I regard consensus science as an extremely pernicious development that ought to be stopped cold in its tracks. Historically, the claim of consensus has been the first refuge of scoundrels; it is a way to avoid debate by claiming that the matter is already settled. Whenever you hear the consensus of scientists agrees on something or other, reach for your wallet, because you’re being had.

    “Let’s be clear: the work of science has nothing whatever to do with consensus. Consensus is the business of politics. Science, on the contrary, requires only one investigator who happens to be right, which means that he or she has results that are verifiable by reference to the real world. In science consensus is irrelevant. What is relevant is reproducible results. The greatest scientists in history are great precisely because they broke with the consensus.

    “There is no such thing as consensus science. If it’s consensus, it isn’t science. If it’s science, it isn’t consensus. Period.”

    1. Terrific quote from Michael Crichton thank you! So true. I had not seen that. It needs to be repeated on every story that insists on such vacant and blatantly political stories on all such scientific policy on vaccines, climate, military, food, guns, voting, immigration, you name it. It is the triumph of advertising and propaganda over common sense

  9. I find the angrier people get when you discuss the dangers of vaccines the less educated they are on both sides of the subject.

  10. Yes, a lot of people of high intellect and education voted for Donald J. Trump. He indicated he was open to looking at the vaccination schedule. Don’t know what to make of the comment by Dr. Helmer.Hilwig,M.D. Pretty noncommittal,but I chose to go with a more positive view. Don’t really think politics should even enter into the discussion. When RFK, Jr. and Tucker Carlson can get together on something, that’s a good thing I do have a few control freak “progressive liberals” that think they should be able to coerce me into doing that which they think is best for me. They do not believe that individuals should have autonomy, which is the foundation of western civilization. I, personally, do not wish to live in a hive society.

  11. Ingesting or injecting poisonous substances into the body will never create health or sustain health. The very opposite has been proven true.

  12. “It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it.”
    – Upton Sinclair

  13. People with a higher level of advanced education and who engage in critical thinking are more likely to question the safety of vaccines because (1) they consider it important that no long term safety studies have been conducted that give vaccines a clean bill of health; (2)vaccine promoters such as Dr. Offit have conflicts of interest due to the funding they or their centers have received from vaccine manufacturers, which they often fail to disclose; (3) reporting of adverse symptoms from vaccinations are far from adequate; (4) Neil Miller has summarized 400 studies showing significant harmful problems caused by vaccines; (5) evidence shows that many vaccines are not safe for many people, and can even trigger outbreaks of the disease they purport to prevent; (6) the vaccine industry is the only industry exempted by law from lawsuits against them for the harm they cause due to negligence, gross negligence, reckless behavior, or fraudulent conduct, which decreases or even removes a major incentive for them to ensure that vaccines are safe; and (7) instead motivates them to promote vaccines they know are unsafe. (8) Furthermore,evidence from nutritional science shows that optimal diet and nutrition, nutritional supplements, avoidance and removal of toxins, and healthy lifestyle are excellent if not the best protections from the many different types of infections that vaccine makers purport to protect us from, and without the serious side effects, including permanent disability and death.

    (9) In addition, controlled studies show that giving children or adults high amounts of vitamin C, vitamin A, and vitamin D, and moderate amounts of zinc and selenium, and other essential nutrients, with or prior to vaccinations, greatly reduces the risk of harmful side effects including death from vaccinations, and should be routinely given or required before or when giving vaccinations.

    I fit the description of many of those with a more than average education who question the wisdom, safety, and benefits of the extent and manner of vaccinations. I received a B.A. in history, followed by a law degree, and have been a trial lawyer for 51 years, which has included handling many scientific and medical issues. Thirty years ago I completed all requirements for a Ph.D. in nutrition except for thesis.

    Unfortunately, getting a medical education and medical license require very little if any education on diet and nutrition in order to prevent and recover from serious illnesses, as well as to prevent harm from vaccinations. In addition, medical doctors receive significant income for providing vaccinations to patients, and are under pressure to do so, and therefore have a conflict of interest on the topic.

  14. I don’t think it’s a matter of Offit being “wrong” per se; it’s about him being paid off by BigPharma to belittle, smear and vilify those with opposing views, including actual scientists! People like Offit have no morality or ethics.

  15. Vaccines are a scam of Orwellian dimensions. They are meant to cripple individuals and produce a herd that can be easily manipulated into ‘voter bases’ and standing armies using sports, sex and other devices of mass manipulation.

    The science behind vaccines is a total joke and shows that most people, no matter how many degrees and positions they obtain declaring them better than their fellow man, are incapable cowards when it comes to reasoning.

  16. The pharmaceutical companies are owned by the members of the new world order.
    The new world order are worshippers of satan.
    Satan wants as many souls as he might be able to trick into following him.
    Pharmaceutical drugs ALL have an LD-50, which is a dosage level at which half of the tested population will die at that dosage.
    A therapeutically safe dose is some percentage of the LD-50 level. ALL pharmaceutical drugs kill some number of those who take them, each and every year, these deaths are not compiled into publically accessible databases.
    The devil/satan, cannot make you do anything, but, he can cause you to believe that what you are doing is good for you. The more people who can be killed using pharmaceutical drugs, the more souls satan gets to gain control over.
    The new world order also has invested much money into the medical schools all over this country and the world. Once some organization invests a huge sum of money in a college or medical school, the investor gains an amount of influence in the school that is relative to how much money has been donated to the school. The new world order determines what is taught and how it is taught in the schools they have invested in and taken some level of control over.
    The new world order and the members of it, do not want people to know these things, if people in general knew what takes place, they would, in some cases, make efforts to overcome these evil designs.
    Do NOT take pharmaceutical drugs, of any sort for any reason. DIET will make you either healthy of ill. Drugs, of any sort, particularly pharmaceutical drugs will, first: addle your brain, Second: destroy, at various rates, your organs, your bodily systems, your ability to even know that something is going wrong with you and your body.
    A diet of healthy foods and filled with natural nutritional components, including proper and adequate vitamins, nutrients, minerals and whatever else is needed for a healthy life, are able to be assembled, but, I would not trust medical doctors for much more than fixing broken bones, repairing cuts and abrasions, things like that. I, would not and do not trust medical doctors to know about health or nutrition.
    Eat food that has been processed the least, if when you read and nutrition label you find words that you cannot even pronounce let alone know what they are, do not eat that “frankenfood”. It is filled with poisons. As much as you are able, grow your own food, eat as close to the ground as possible–this means eating things that have been processed the least amount practical–fresh fruits and vegetables, meat from animals that you can trace their life from knowing the parents of the animal and that they were well fed and not filled with antibiotics or other growth enhancing chemicals, if you can, eat meat that came only from one animal, instead of burger that comes from, no-one knows how many animals.
    Stay away from pharmaceutical drugs, they will kill you, that is what they are designed to do, eat as close to the ground as you are able, the fresher something is, the better for you that it is, drink much water and stay away from ALL soda pops, energy drinks, gatoraid and other drinks of that sort.
    I follow there guidelines and I am exceptionally healthy, I almost never see medical doctors because I know these things I have just commented on and know this information to be true.
    Educate yourself about health and nutrition and you will live a better life and have better health as a result.

  17. Perhaps the most important question to ask is this: ‘Are doctors expert at promoting healthy living or at diagnosing and treating illness?’

    Decisions about vaccination are about injecting a healthy child to prevent future illness. So they are decisions about healthy living, not about treating the sick.

    Do you see your doctor as a leader in healthy living?

    If not, why do you see them as the thought leader in deciding whether to vaccinate or not?

  18. I cant believe the ignorance of some of these comments. You want evidence that vaccines are extremely important? Just look at history. Look at all the deadly diseases that have wiped out large amounts of the human population that are now under control all because of vaccines. You are concerned if vaccines are safe? Are you that stupid? Even if there is some risk, the alternative is much, much greater. You say it’s your body and your children’s bodies? Well that’s just selfish. Your child does not have a voice so they rely on your common sense. which seems to be lacking in this world. What about the rest of the population, other peoples children you are putting at risk because of your complete ignorance. Seems these people think that everything is Propaganda and a conspiracy theory.

    1. Ryan, all these deadly diseases you think vaccines eradicated were on the wane way before vaccines came into the picture. The big miracle was not vaccines, it was the toilet. Sanitation and clean water were responsible for the great decline in illness.

  19. I have always disliked polls taken according to education level. Educated people are not necessarily smarter than uneducated people.
    Having said that, I don’t think vaccines make much sense. They produce antibodies, but do not support the immune system. They are toxic and do produce injury. Long-term they affect the negatively the health of our children.
    If you want immune system support, you should try ASEA–a totally non-toxic, patented, and tested supplement that heals the body on the cellular level.

  20. Ryan, all these deadly diseases you think vaccines eradicated were on the wane way before vaccines came into the picture. The big miracle was not vaccines, it was the toilet. Sanitation and clean water were responsible for the great decline in illness.

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