Perspectives on the Pandemic | Dr. John Ioannidis

We realized that the number of infected people is somewhere between 50 and 85 times more, compared to what we thought… compared to what had been documented. Immediately, that means that the infection fatality rate… the probability of dying if you are infected [with coronavirus] diminishes by 50 to 85 fold because the denominator in the calculation becomes 50 to 85 fold bigger. If you take these numbers into account, they suggest that the infection fatality rate for this new coronavirus is likely to be in the same ballpark as seasonal influenza. Of course, there is still a little bit of uncertainty about the exact number, but it’s clearly very different compared to the original thoughts or speculation or preliminary data that suggested a much much higher infection fatality rate.

9 Responses to "Perspectives on the Pandemic | Dr. John Ioannidis"

  1. Penelope   April 27, 2020 at 2:57 pm

    Dr Ioannidis is the pioneer of medical meta research- he is brave and genuine professional. It’s a shame Trump doesn’t fire Brix and Fauci and put him in charge

    • Jay   April 30, 2020 at 11:03 am

      yes, along with Peter Duesberg and his colleagues and trusted co-thinkers!

    • Jay   April 30, 2020 at 11:20 am

      Never mind this Doc……he has no clue what hes talking abut re: Ig tests. RNA virus (retrovirus) do not evoke strong immune response if any, thus no specific proteins can be found in which to develop an accurate test. Specific proteins are KEY! RNA virus are weak single strand vesicles that move in and out of cells thought to pass DNA messages. They do not threaten cells like DNA virus do. I keep my promotion of Duesberg regardless, a giant in retrovirology and molecular cell biology. Duesberg blew the whistle on the last major attempt to blame these simple non-infectious virus for the AIDS “crisis”……..that faded into black. It’s on the CDC backburner now on simmer, once in a while on Natl.AIDS Day they turn up the heat a little. Fauci instrumental in that hoax as well.

  2. Thomas Brown   April 27, 2020 at 5:28 pm

    “We realized . . . ” What does this mean? Can you that the number of infected people is 50 to 85 times greater than we currently think? If so, then we might as well just go back to life as before. This is a sensational claim. Is it just an opinion?

    • Jay   April 30, 2020 at 11:38 am

      You left out a work in your second sentence I’ll assume was “prove”? If so, the answer is no. Numbers counting moot without accurate Ig tests. PRC? Never designed to count or isolate whole viral particles, Kerry Mullis it’s inventor said. Works well for crime and archeology. So, no we will never know, all numbers are unreliable. Made up nonsense to fit agendas. Now, if it was a DNA virus, we’d have accurate Ig tests…..but PCR would still be irrelevant.

    • Tony   May 1, 2020 at 2:42 pm

      Here’s the story from Santa Clara County, CA:

  3. Thomas Brown   April 27, 2020 at 5:29 pm

    What is “medical meta research?”

  4. RuthPS   April 27, 2020 at 7:13 pm

    So far I’ve only listened to 12 minutes of this video and I already have a question. Dr. Ioannidis proposes that medical personnel inadvertently spread covid in the early days of the outbreak because there’s no vaccine for covid, unlike outbreaks of influenza, for which there are vaccines. Since the efficacy of the flu vaccine is reported to be only 10-30% each year, I’m not convinced by that reasoning. I propose that medical personnel, like most of the population, may have built up immunity to many different flu viruses, one way or another, but the important distinction is that it is unlikely they would have acquired ANY immunity for covid-19, since it is a new virus/infection.

  5. Faith   April 27, 2020 at 9:34 pm

    RuthPS: I agree. He shouldn’t be talking about a vaccine! Flu shots don’t work. The risk far outweighs the benefit in my mind. Many vaccinated people still get influenza. The “vaccine” is never the answer! Build your innate immune system.


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