Do COVID-19 Ventilation Protocols Need a Second Look?

So you’ve been talking a lot about the number of patients, the percentage of patients actually, that are dying on ventilators. When did you first notice this trend? So in preparation of opening what became a full COVID positive intensive care unit, I scoured the data to see what was out there and, obviously, those that have experienced it before us, primarily the Chinese and the Italians, it was hard to find the rate of what we call successful extubation… meaning someone was put on a ventilator and taken off. That data is still hard to find, and I imagine there’s a lot of people still on ventilators, but from the data we have available it appears to be somewhere between 50 and 90 percent, and it seems that most reports or published data put it around 70 percent. That’s a very very high percentage, in general, when one thinks of a medical disease.

14 Responses to "Do COVID-19 Ventilation Protocols Need a Second Look?"

  1. Nancy Miller   April 13, 2020 at 3:50 pm

    Hospitals get a lot more money for a patient put on ventilators! They can be put on and taken right off and hospital gets paid! Sick of all this garbage.

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  2. David   April 13, 2020 at 4:19 pm

    an alternative to the ventilator is the vitamin C protocol developed by Dr Marik.
    there is a video on youtube where he discusses his successful use of Vitamin C
    the video’s title is “Full Interview with Dr Paul Marik.
    There is also another relevant video” ICU Nurses discuss Vitamin C treatment of Sepsis.
    the problem with the ventilator is it can cause death by damaging the lungs, if not managed properly. .

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  3. Lynn   April 13, 2020 at 4:34 pm

    So let’s try high dose vitamin C & oxygen! What do we have to lose? Oh wait…..vaccine Manufactures and Bill Gates & Tony Fauci would have too much to lose!

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  4. Michae   April 13, 2020 at 4:34 pm

    Let’s start at the beginning – who ran Koch’s Postulates and established this was a virus? If Koch’s tests were not run, then we don’t know these things:
    – is it a virus?
    – can it be isolated in all subjects experiencing the symptoms? is it the same virus infecting others?
    – can it be isolated and used to infect a compatible animal and get the same symptoms?

    If we don’t really know the answers to these questions, then what do we know about variability on intubation? The subjects you might say are suffering from corona virus and then experiencing acute respiratory failure that doesn’t respond to intubation is suddenly on shaky ground.

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  5. Ellen Rixford   April 13, 2020 at 4:35 pm

    Minnesota State Senator Dr. Scott Jensen has reported recently on Fox News and elsewhere about how Medicare payments influence medical decisions. “When a Medicare patient is diagnosed with simple non-COVID pneumonia, the hospital would receive a one-time Medicare lump-sum payout of $4600. However, if that Medicare patient is diagnosed with COVID-19 pneumonia, the Medicare coverage is a one-time $13,000 payment. And if the hospital puts that COVID-19 pneumonia patient on a ventilator, the one-time payment is $39,000. NOTE: It doesn’t matter how long these patients stay in hospital—there is only going to be one lump-sum insurance payment.
    Think that money is driving these decisions?

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  6. Robert DeBiasse   April 13, 2020 at 4:44 pm

    Great Doctor to speak openly.
    What about talking about med treatment.
    Like the ones spoken by Trump & made by China in video.

    Also very informative video on C19:

    https://spiritdaily.org/blog/news/on-the-trail-of-a-potential-lab-source

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  7. S. C. Lewis   April 13, 2020 at 6:39 pm

    Listening to this interview I could not help but think of HBOT. Fortunately, a trial with 40 patients at NYU Winthrop Hospital started on 4/6/20.

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  8. Kat   April 13, 2020 at 9:38 pm

    If COVID pneumonia acts like high altitude sickness, has anyone thought of using oxygen and hyperbaric chamber to treat?

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  9. Annie   April 14, 2020 at 9:34 am

    I remember seeing data back in February, probably the numbers were mostly from China at that time… it was (not exactly, but round about as i remember) :
    Patients put on ventilation: 488,
    Ventilated patients death: 467…..( it might have been higher at that point) i remember thinking ventilation seems to be Not helping.

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  10. Lulubelle   April 14, 2020 at 9:35 am

    It’s nothing like you’ve ever seen before because it is MANMADE. thank you for speaking out

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  11. Gordon   April 14, 2020 at 5:43 pm

    Just something interesting…

    http://web.archive.org/web/20200405061401/https://medium.com/@agaiziunas/covid-19-had-us-all-fooled-but-now-we-might-have-finally-found-its-secret-91182386efcb

    This info was a bit loose and is available on the waybackmachine site, but has been deleted from the original site. I went from there to reading “COVID-19: Attacks the 1-Beta Chain of Hemoglobin and Captures the Porphyrin to Inhibit Human Heme Metabolism”. The paper did not seem to explicitly go into, that I saw, the amount of Iron dumped into the blood during the infection process, which can be very devastating on its own.

    Here is the paper, it is a bit techincal.

    https://us-east-2.protection.sophos.com?d=chemrxiv.org&u=aHR0cHM6Ly9jaGVtcnhpdi5vcmcvYXJ0aWNsZXMvQ09WSUQtMTlfRGlzZWFzZV9PUkY4X2FuZF9TdXJmYWNlX0dseWNvcHJvdGVpbl9JbmhpYml0X0hlbWVfTWV0YWJvbGlzbV9ieV9CaW5kaW5nX3RvX1BvcnBoeXJpbi8xMTkzODE3My81P2ZiY2xpZD1Jd0FSMjBDY2tYTFU3Z21qcXRGR1A3NHFsQnJ6aHF5OGp1RTZzdGx6NHI5eDZLZW13VUpFdkxPdENDLWE0&e=aW5mb0BlbWVyYW1lZC5jb20=&h=07347db6aedc4f3db81ae294a11e3f41&t=bU5pWE5DeWIrSXJVVGVxQmljOEVqUm4yWHZtMlhLemRHejVoV0l0dW9jTT0=

    It explains that the lung issues are not ARD and a ventilator may not the way to treat it.

    There has been a shift of treatment paradigms might reduce deaths a substantially. It has been adopted by the largest hospital system in NY.

    https://nypost.com/2020/03/24/new-york-hospitals-treating-coronavirus-patients-with-vitamin-c/

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  12. JL   April 14, 2020 at 6:34 pm

    It is criminal to think of how many deaths might have been avoided with simple and inexpensive high dose vitamin c infusions. Why is no one saying that out loud! It should be a crime to intubate patients before ALL other treatments are tried! I would not set foot in a hospital today – they are no place to get well except for trauma like car wrecks or gunshot wounds.

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  13. Queen_of_The_South   April 14, 2020 at 8:57 pm

    “Dr Cameron Kyle-Sidell” = ‘COVidiot-19’ Psy-Op disinfo agent/actor to reinforce the “pandemic” fear & fake infection/death counts! These types of scams are called Psychological Operations for a reason; the perpetrators know how the human mind works & how to manipulate it (with rhetoric, imagery, role-play & simulations). When they plan a world-wide Psy-Op like this the more sophisticated, complex and comprehensive it will be — using “trusted voices”. [2 Corinthians 11:14-15]
    This just proves how easy it is to get suckered by such Controlled Opposition misdirection tactics. Because people see what they want to see, this is cunningly devised to sound like an insider/whistle blower “risking” everything to “help save lives” to distract from the discrepancies & insidious reinforcement of the fear narrative: “overwhelmed hospitals” & “1,000s of deaths” — despite the fact that the numbers just don’t add up, per the CDC’s own site stats (compare annual flu/pneumonia deaths to the alleged “Cov-19” totals)!It’s also contradicted by numerous local citizen reporters who have videoed the supposedly overwhelmed hospital hot spots showing empty waiting rooms, wards, car parks & idle ambulances (from Brooklyn NY to LA, Hawaii, UK & Germany) — all exposing the reality vs Big pHarma-controlled corporate Media lies & their paid spin doctors: https://youtu.be/5pIMD1enwd4 Clues:
    1. Why won’t he say how MANY “Cov-19” patients he claims to have seen/treated with the exact same symptoms (in just “9 days”) OR the ages, pre-conditions & if any died?2. He only regurgitates what intensivists already know about intubation ventilator use.3. His story make no sense anyway since no 2 people, even with the same presumed illness, will present identical symptoms, severity, reactions or progression — quite apart from differences there would be because of age, sex, health conditions, fitness, beliefs, attitude etc. etc. 4. Whether he’s a real doctor or not is irrelevant when the name used is so provocatively incongruous. Reminds me of a scene in the movie Red when Willis’ co-star character queries her new fake ID name of “Shaniqua Johnson?”, to which he smirks “You were adopted”.
    N.B. No one is immune to confirmation bias or cognitive dissonance without constant vigilance in applying critical thinking to everything we’re shown or told.
    He was first featured in a Gothamist media article about the allegedly beleaguered Brooklyn hospitals (Maimonides): https://gothamist.com/news/inside-one-brooklyn-hospitals-scramble-to-prepare-for-surge-in-coronavirus-patients
    Then uploaded on Youtube 3x (wearing scrubs): https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCNgMagm3-NwKdfGiXp8WILg
    Repeated similar spiel on WebMd & Medscape (to which only medical practioners can access & comment)
    https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/928156 (video)Note 2 unimpressed comment reactions to “Cameron Kyle-Sidell MD”:
    Dr. Brendan Hayes:”How are they measuring saturations into the 20’s. Are these blood gas results? Last I checked pulse oximetry was not accurate below 70-80%.”
    Dr. Sattar Farzan:”With the commonly held confidence in test results for determining the presence or absence of infection with the novel coronavirus, I have to remind clinicians that unless the predictive value of a test (determined by the sensitivity, specificity and prevalence of the disease) is known it would be misleading and even dangerous to make practical decisions based on its reported result.”
    [Ephesians 5: 11-13]

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  14. Susan G.   April 15, 2020 at 3:42 am

    I did research on ventilators when this new virus was said to cause people to need ventilators for breathing. I had no idea I would find this information. I found that going on a ventilator can cause pneumonia! It’s called VAP, Ventilator Associated Pneumonia. It’s the second most contracted infection in the hospital, but one of the most dangerous, causing a 45% mortality rate of those who contract VAP! There are 250,000-300,000 incidents of VAP a year in hospitals. You can do the math. VAP is well known and easy to research.. I found it astonishing, that people who are already very ill, in ICU, and are then put on a ventilator to breathe have a high percentage of contracting VAP and dying anyway. So who knows if these Covid19 patients do or do not have pneumonia before they are put on a ventilator and perhaps die, not from Covid19, but VAP instead. I’m a 68 year old grandmother, and I told my husband if I get the coronavirus, Do Not let the doctors put me on a ventilator. I will take my chances… Besides I’m a Christian and I know where I’m going when I die.

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